New KZ650 Project

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Re: New KZ650 Project

07 Dec 2023 12:51 - 07 Dec 2023 12:53
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Heres some photos of engine and cam damage. 
  

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Re: New KZ650 Project

07 Dec 2023 16:06
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Ouch.
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1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough

www.kzrider.com/11-projects/620336-anoth...uild-thread?start=24

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Re: New KZ650 Project

20 Dec 2023 02:19
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And the plot thickens even more...looking closer at the head I noticed the area around the buckets had some material ground off .   Then I looked at the cams, and found out they are high lift performance cams.   They are so tall the head had to be ground so the lobes would clear on rotation.   You can see the new welded on material so they could be reground.   The only markings I can see are a 417600 TP.   I think they are .417 lift, which is what they measured from the circle up.  They added about .110 on top and took .07 off the back. 

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Re: New KZ650 Project

25 Dec 2023 13:10
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More Photos of the cam and head, you can see the grinding relief on the head for clearance and the added material on the cam.  

 

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Re: New KZ650 Project

12 Mar 2024 23:47
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Per the photos you can see I need a set of cams' just trying to figure out what direction to go.   Have these repaired or get a set of stock ones, maybe all new performance set.   I also really don't like the left hand four into one either.   

Any ideas on cam profiles from anyone?  

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Re: New KZ650 Project

13 Mar 2024 11:38
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As far as the profile goes are you sure you measured the cams properly because proportionally they do not look like they are over .400" lift (hard to tell from pics)



I suspect they may be less because the head would need to be ground more (no casting lines left in path way) I have two 650 heads set up to run cams over .400" and they both have more grinding than the picture you posted.

The last time I sent out cams to be weld and reground it cost as much as a new set (WebCam) The only vendors left that show pricing on new KZ650/750 cams are WebCam and APE. The listed prices are $875 and $760 before tax/ship.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
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Re: New KZ650 Project

16 Mar 2024 00:56
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I measured the cams again per the correct way and they are averaging .405" lift, with wear added in I bet they were originally .410".   

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Re: New KZ650 Project

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I measured the cams again per the correct way and they are averaging .405" lift, with wear added in I bet they were originally .410".   

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