KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 11:22
Yes. Oil light and neutral light comes on. There was nothing before that.
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 11:26 - 17 Jun 2023 11:39
I'm not concerned if it runs.
It most likely will if the lights come on and the starter will turn.
But you will need to replace the wires involved with your short circuit fire.
They have all been compromised.
The red/white wire from battery positive terminal to 20amp fuse
The white wire from thebattery 20 amp fuse to the ignition switch.
The brown wire from the ignition switch to the ignition switch connector.
The brown wire from the ignition switch connector to your horn.
Your new 20 amp fuse holder with thick red wire will need to remain in circuit.
It most likely will if the lights come on and the starter will turn.
But you will need to replace the wires involved with your short circuit fire.
They have all been compromised.
The red/white wire from battery positive terminal to 20amp fuse
The white wire from the
The brown wire from the ignition switch to the ignition switch connector.
The brown wire from the ignition switch connector to your horn.
Your new 20 amp fuse holder with thick red wire will need to remain in circuit.
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 11:40
Brilliant!! Thank you.
Do you know… Is there a post here to explain how to remove the ignition switch?
I think I remove the headlamp and there are two Allen key bolts. Is that right?
Do you know… Is there a post here to explain how to remove the ignition switch?
I think I remove the headlamp and there are two Allen key bolts. Is that right?
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 11:42
O, and how do I remove old and insert new wires into the connectors? Is it possible, or do I simply by pass them with a m/f crimp pin and socket?
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 11:46
you can just bypass the connector.
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 11:53 - 17 Jun 2023 11:56
There is a service manual on the internet.
Just google
service manual kz440
The manual has a purple cover
Page 133
Just google
service manual kz440
The manual has a purple cover
Page 133
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 12:02
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
17 Jun 2023 12:23
yep!
same one.
look at page 133
same one.
look at page 133
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
18 Jun 2023 07:25
I’ve replaced all the wires as recommended, except those from ignition switch to ignition 4-way connector, and it’s looking good.
One new problem though. I dismantled the ignition switch to replace the wire, and like all comedic mishaps, a spring sprung and out popped the asymmetric white plastic piece that controls the bolt that I guess applies a steering lock.
I’ve reassembled the switch the best I could, however the bolt protrudes right out in the Off position. I’m sure that’s wrong but I couldn’t get the white piece properly positioned otherwise, AND reassemble the switch. It can only fit two ways, given the cut of the spindle it attaches to.
my key only turns to Off and On. It won’t shift into a steering lock position.
I’m loathed to take it apart again and share pictures, unless someone here can advise me. I’ve not put the ignition switch back on the bike yet. I suspect I’ll be unable to do so with the bolt protruding.
any advice appreciated.
One new problem though. I dismantled the ignition switch to replace the wire, and like all comedic mishaps, a spring sprung and out popped the asymmetric white plastic piece that controls the bolt that I guess applies a steering lock.
I’ve reassembled the switch the best I could, however the bolt protrudes right out in the Off position. I’m sure that’s wrong but I couldn’t get the white piece properly positioned otherwise, AND reassemble the switch. It can only fit two ways, given the cut of the spindle it attaches to.
my key only turns to Off and On. It won’t shift into a steering lock position.
I’m loathed to take it apart again and share pictures, unless someone here can advise me. I’ve not put the ignition switch back on the bike yet. I suspect I’ll be unable to do so with the bolt protruding.
any advice appreciated.
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
25 Jun 2023 03:51 - 25 Jun 2023 03:51
That’s everything fixed. Even the ignition switch.
Thank you all.
one last question before I close the topic.
I used chocolate box connectors and thinking in due course, because the are bulky, replace with crimped connectors. Does anyone know if there is Amp ratings for crimp terminals? I have a set with 3 different sizes. See picture. The associated numbers don’t seem to relate to current. I wonder if it’s simply a case of, if the wire fits, and the insulation butts up against the internal metal, it’s by definition fit for purpose.
Cheers
Thank you all.
one last question before I close the topic.
I used chocolate box connectors and thinking in due course, because the are bulky, replace with crimped connectors. Does anyone know if there is Amp ratings for crimp terminals? I have a set with 3 different sizes. See picture. The associated numbers don’t seem to relate to current. I wonder if it’s simply a case of, if the wire fits, and the insulation butts up against the internal metal, it’s by definition fit for purpose.
Cheers
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Re: KZ440-A2: Electrics are dead
25 Jun 2023 04:58
Pretty much amp rated by wire size.
Just use the connector that fits the wire size the best and you should be fine.
Good job on fixing the problems!
Just use the connector that fits the wire size the best and you should be fine.
Good job on fixing the problems!
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