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31 Aug 2012 03:06 #545841
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KZ650 ( '77 Engine, '78 frame, 80's ignition, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Pods, lowered [links])
1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationSo I was looking through the parts box that came with my kz650 (which I've been steadily adding to) and buried at the bottom I fount a pair of lowering links. I've kind of wanted to give my bike more of a bobbed/custom look so it felt like my lucky day. Then I noticed something a little weird about them. The outside hole seems way bigger than the thread hole:
So I looked around a bit more and saw this image:
Which (barely) shows the initial neck of the bolt looking larger than threads. Do these take special bolts that sadly are no longer with the pair that I have? Are my eyes just playing tricks on me and they take normal bolts, or maybe they take something like z1 shock mount bolts like these:
Anyone have experience with these that can shed some light on my situation?
So I looked around a bit more and saw this image:
Which (barely) shows the initial neck of the bolt looking larger than threads. Do these take special bolts that sadly are no longer with the pair that I have? Are my eyes just playing tricks on me and they take normal bolts, or maybe they take something like z1 shock mount bolts like these:
Anyone have experience with these that can shed some light on my situation?
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1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser
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31 Aug 2012 06:08 #545845
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They use your stock lower shock bolts
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31 Aug 2012 10:11 #545861
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So do I need two sets of lower shock bolts then?
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31 Aug 2012 10:13 #545862
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31 Aug 2012 10:30 #545864
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After checking eBay and z1ent, I found nuthin for shock lower bolts for a kz650. Anyone know if z1 shock lower bolts are interchangable?
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31 Aug 2012 10:37 - 31 Aug 2012 10:37 #545865
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1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
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2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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According to Kawi, those shouldered bolts fit 190 models--
Model (190):
A1 (1969)
F5 (Big Horn) (1970)
F6 (1971)
F6-A (1972)
F6-B (1973)
F7 (1971)
F7-A (1972)
F7-B (1973)
F7-C (1974)
F7-D (1975)
F81M (1971)
F8-A (1972)
F9 (1972)
F9-A (1973)
F9-B (1974)
F9-C (1975)
G31M (Centurion) (1970)
G31M-A (Centurion) (1971)
G4TR (Trail Boss) (1970)
G4TR-A (1971)
G4TR-B (1972)
G4TR-C (1973)
G4TR-D (1974)
G4TR-E (1975)
G5 (1972)
G5-B (1974)
G5-C (1975)
H1 (Mach III) (1969)
H1-C (1972)
H1-D (1973)
H1-E (1974)
H1-F (1975)
H2 (Mach IV) (1972)
H2-B (Mach IV) (1974)
H2-C (Mach IV) (1975)
KD125 (1975)
KD125-A2 (1976)
KD125-A3 (1977)
KD125-A4 (1978)
KD125-A5 (1979)
KD175-A1 (1976)
KD175-A2 (1977)
KD175-A3 (1978)
KD175-A4 (1979)
KE100-A10 (KE100) (1981)
KE100-A5 (KE100) (1976)
KE100-A6 (KE100) (1977)
KE100-A7 (KE100) (1978)
KE100-A8 (KE100) (1979)
KE100-A9 (KE100) (1980)
KE125-A10 (KE125) (1983)
KE125-A7 (KE125) (1980)
KE125-A8 (KE125) (1981)
KE125-A9 (KE125) (1982)
KE175-B1 (KE175) (1976)
KE175-B2 (KE175) (1977)
KE175-B3 (KE175) (1978)
KE250-B1 (1977)
KE250-B2 (1978)
KE250-B3 (1979)
KH250-A5 (1976)
KH400-A3 (1976)
KH400-A4 (1977)
KH400-A5 (1978)
KH500-A8 (1976)
KS125 (1974)
KS125-A (1975)
KV100-A7 (1976)
KX125 (1974)
KX125-A (1975)
KX125-A3 (1976)
KZ1000-A1 (KZ1000) (1977)
KZ1000-A2 (KZ1000) (1978)
KZ1000-A2A (KZ1000) (1978)
KZ1000-A3 (KZ1000) (1979)
KZ1000-A3A (KZ1000) (1979)
KZ1000-A4 (KZ1000) (1980)
KZ1000-C1 (Police 1000) (1978)
KZ1000-C1A (Police 1000) (1978)
KZ1000-C2 (Police 1000) (1979)
KZ1000-C3 (Police 1000) (1980)
KZ1000-C4 (Police 1000) (1981)
KZ1000-D1 (Z1R) (1978)
KZ1000-D3 (Z1R) (1980)
KZ1000-J1 (1981)
KZ1000-J2 (1982)
KZ1000-J3 (1983)
KZ1000-K1 (LTD) (1981)
KZ1000-K2 (LTD) (1982)
KZ1000-M1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ1000-M2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ1000-P1 (Police 1000) (1982)
KZ1000-P2 (Police 1000) (1983)
KZ1000-P3 (Police 1000) (1984)
KZ1000-P4 (Police 1000) (1985)
KZ1000-P5 (Police 1000) (1986)
KZ1000-P6 (Police 1000) (1987)
KZ1000-P7 (Police 1000) (1988)
KZ1000-P8 (Police 1000) (1989)
KZ1000-P9 (Police 1000) (1990)
KZ1100-B1 (GPz) (1981)
KZ200-A1 (1978)
KZ200-A1A (1978)
KZ200-A2 (1979)
KZ250-D1 (KZ250) (1980)
KZ250-D2 (CSR) (1981)
KZ250-L1 (CSR Belt) (1982)
KZ250-W1 (LTD Belt) (1983)
KZ305-A1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ305-A2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ305-B1 (CSR Belt) (1982)
KZ400 (1974)
KZ400-A1 (1977)
KZ400-A2 (1978)
KZ400-B1 (1978)
KZ400-B2 (1979)
KZ400-C1 (1978)
KZ400-D (1975)
KZ400-D3 (1976)
KZ400-D4 (1977)
KZ400-H1 (1979)
KZ400-S (Special) (1975)
KZ400-S2 (Special) (1976)
KZ400-S3 (Special) (1977)
KZ440-A1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ440-A2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ440-A3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ440-A4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ440-B1 (1980)
KZ440-B2 (1981)
KZ440-D1 (LTD Belt) (1980)
KZ440-D2 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D3 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D4 (LTD Belt) (1982)
KZ440-D5 (LTD Belt) (1983)
KZ440-G1 (1982)
KZ550-A1 (1980)
KZ550-A2 (1981)
KZ550-A3 (1982)
KZ550-A4 (1983)
KZ550-C1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ550-C2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ550-C3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ550-C4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ550-D1 (GPz) (1981)
KZ650-B1 (1977)
KZ650-B2 (1978)
KZ650-B2A (1978)
KZ650-B3 (1979)
KZ650-C1 (Custom) (1977)
KZ650-C2 (Custom) (1978)
KZ650-C3 (Custom) (1979)
KZ650-D1 (SR) (1978)
KZ650-D1A (SR) (1978)
KZ650-D2 (SR) (1979)
KZ650-E1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ650-F1 (1980)
KZ650-H1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ650-H2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ650-H3 (CSR) (1983)
KZ750-B1 (1976)
KZ750-B2 (1977)
KZ750-B3 (1978)
KZ750-B4 (1979)
KZ750-E1 (1980)
KZ750-E2 (1981)
KZ750-E3 (1982)
KZ750-G1 (LTD II) (1980)
KZ750-H1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ750-H2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ750-H3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ750-H4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ750-M1 (CSR Twin) (1982)
KZ900-A4 (1976)
KZ900-A5 (1977)
KZ900-B1 (LTD) (1976)
S1-A (Mach I) (1973)
S1-B (Mach I) (1974)
S1-C (Mach I) (1975)
S2 (Mach II) (1972)
S2-A (Mach II) (1973)
S3 (Mach II) (1974)
S3-A (Mach II) (1975)
W1 (1967)
W1SS (1969)
W2SS (Commander) (1969)
W2TT (Commander) (1969)
Z1 (Z1) (1973)
Z1-A (Z1) (1974)
Z1-B (Z1) (1975)
Model (190):
A1 (1969)
F5 (Big Horn) (1970)
F6 (1971)
F6-A (1972)
F6-B (1973)
F7 (1971)
F7-A (1972)
F7-B (1973)
F7-C (1974)
F7-D (1975)
F81M (1971)
F8-A (1972)
F9 (1972)
F9-A (1973)
F9-B (1974)
F9-C (1975)
G31M (Centurion) (1970)
G31M-A (Centurion) (1971)
G4TR (Trail Boss) (1970)
G4TR-A (1971)
G4TR-B (1972)
G4TR-C (1973)
G4TR-D (1974)
G4TR-E (1975)
G5 (1972)
G5-B (1974)
G5-C (1975)
H1 (Mach III) (1969)
H1-C (1972)
H1-D (1973)
H1-E (1974)
H1-F (1975)
H2 (Mach IV) (1972)
H2-B (Mach IV) (1974)
H2-C (Mach IV) (1975)
KD125 (1975)
KD125-A2 (1976)
KD125-A3 (1977)
KD125-A4 (1978)
KD125-A5 (1979)
KD175-A1 (1976)
KD175-A2 (1977)
KD175-A3 (1978)
KD175-A4 (1979)
KE100-A10 (KE100) (1981)
KE100-A5 (KE100) (1976)
KE100-A6 (KE100) (1977)
KE100-A7 (KE100) (1978)
KE100-A8 (KE100) (1979)
KE100-A9 (KE100) (1980)
KE125-A10 (KE125) (1983)
KE125-A7 (KE125) (1980)
KE125-A8 (KE125) (1981)
KE125-A9 (KE125) (1982)
KE175-B1 (KE175) (1976)
KE175-B2 (KE175) (1977)
KE175-B3 (KE175) (1978)
KE250-B1 (1977)
KE250-B2 (1978)
KE250-B3 (1979)
KH250-A5 (1976)
KH400-A3 (1976)
KH400-A4 (1977)
KH400-A5 (1978)
KH500-A8 (1976)
KS125 (1974)
KS125-A (1975)
KV100-A7 (1976)
KX125 (1974)
KX125-A (1975)
KX125-A3 (1976)
KZ1000-A1 (KZ1000) (1977)
KZ1000-A2 (KZ1000) (1978)
KZ1000-A2A (KZ1000) (1978)
KZ1000-A3 (KZ1000) (1979)
KZ1000-A3A (KZ1000) (1979)
KZ1000-A4 (KZ1000) (1980)
KZ1000-C1 (Police 1000) (1978)
KZ1000-C1A (Police 1000) (1978)
KZ1000-C2 (Police 1000) (1979)
KZ1000-C3 (Police 1000) (1980)
KZ1000-C4 (Police 1000) (1981)
KZ1000-D1 (Z1R) (1978)
KZ1000-D3 (Z1R) (1980)
KZ1000-J1 (1981)
KZ1000-J2 (1982)
KZ1000-J3 (1983)
KZ1000-K1 (LTD) (1981)
KZ1000-K2 (LTD) (1982)
KZ1000-M1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ1000-M2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ1000-P1 (Police 1000) (1982)
KZ1000-P2 (Police 1000) (1983)
KZ1000-P3 (Police 1000) (1984)
KZ1000-P4 (Police 1000) (1985)
KZ1000-P5 (Police 1000) (1986)
KZ1000-P6 (Police 1000) (1987)
KZ1000-P7 (Police 1000) (1988)
KZ1000-P8 (Police 1000) (1989)
KZ1000-P9 (Police 1000) (1990)
KZ1100-B1 (GPz) (1981)
KZ200-A1 (1978)
KZ200-A1A (1978)
KZ200-A2 (1979)
KZ250-D1 (KZ250) (1980)
KZ250-D2 (CSR) (1981)
KZ250-L1 (CSR Belt) (1982)
KZ250-W1 (LTD Belt) (1983)
KZ305-A1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ305-A2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ305-B1 (CSR Belt) (1982)
KZ400 (1974)
KZ400-A1 (1977)
KZ400-A2 (1978)
KZ400-B1 (1978)
KZ400-B2 (1979)
KZ400-C1 (1978)
KZ400-D (1975)
KZ400-D3 (1976)
KZ400-D4 (1977)
KZ400-H1 (1979)
KZ400-S (Special) (1975)
KZ400-S2 (Special) (1976)
KZ400-S3 (Special) (1977)
KZ440-A1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ440-A2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ440-A3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ440-A4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ440-B1 (1980)
KZ440-B2 (1981)
KZ440-D1 (LTD Belt) (1980)
KZ440-D2 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D3 (LTD Belt) (1981)
KZ440-D4 (LTD Belt) (1982)
KZ440-D5 (LTD Belt) (1983)
KZ440-G1 (1982)
KZ550-A1 (1980)
KZ550-A2 (1981)
KZ550-A3 (1982)
KZ550-A4 (1983)
KZ550-C1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ550-C2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ550-C3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ550-C4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ550-D1 (GPz) (1981)
KZ650-B1 (1977)
KZ650-B2 (1978)
KZ650-B2A (1978)
KZ650-B3 (1979)
KZ650-C1 (Custom) (1977)
KZ650-C2 (Custom) (1978)
KZ650-C3 (Custom) (1979)
KZ650-D1 (SR) (1978)
KZ650-D1A (SR) (1978)
KZ650-D2 (SR) (1979)
KZ650-E1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ650-F1 (1980)
KZ650-H1 (CSR) (1981)
KZ650-H2 (CSR) (1982)
KZ650-H3 (CSR) (1983)
KZ750-B1 (1976)
KZ750-B2 (1977)
KZ750-B3 (1978)
KZ750-B4 (1979)
KZ750-E1 (1980)
KZ750-E2 (1981)
KZ750-E3 (1982)
KZ750-G1 (LTD II) (1980)
KZ750-H1 (LTD) (1980)
KZ750-H2 (LTD) (1981)
KZ750-H3 (LTD) (1982)
KZ750-H4 (LTD) (1983)
KZ750-M1 (CSR Twin) (1982)
KZ900-A4 (1976)
KZ900-A5 (1977)
KZ900-B1 (LTD) (1976)
S1-A (Mach I) (1973)
S1-B (Mach I) (1974)
S1-C (Mach I) (1975)
S2 (Mach II) (1972)
S2-A (Mach II) (1973)
S3 (Mach II) (1974)
S3-A (Mach II) (1975)
W1 (1967)
W1SS (1969)
W2SS (Commander) (1969)
W2TT (Commander) (1969)
Z1 (Z1) (1973)
Z1-A (Z1) (1974)
Z1-B (Z1) (1975)
1982 KZ1000 LTD parts donor
1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough
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31 Aug 2012 10:45 #545866
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1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser
Replied by Mullineaux on topic Question about lowering links
Big thanks for all the help everyone!
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05 Sep 2012 17:10 #546871
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1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser
Replied by Mullineaux on topic Question about lowering links
Well, I ordered up those bolts, and they didn't fit! So I went to the hardware store with one and started playing in the nuts and bolts section. Turns out they're 3/8-16. So $0.59 later I have the bolts for the links as well as a (unneeded) brand new set of lower shock bolts for my bike. Putting them on was super easy and it did bring the back end down. It also stiffened the shocks quite a bit. There's still some give to them but nowhere near as much as before, and you feel the road more. I did bounce on it a bit to make sure I wouldn't tare out the brake light wires on a bump. The links also make the back end feel more loose on corners. I've wondered what "wallow" feels like and I think I may have experienced it. On one right turn from a stop is felt like the back end had some sideways sponginess for a split second. It only happened once and I could get her to do it again. :dry: This is a bit of an experiment, I don't think it'll last long.
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11 Nov 2012 02:00 #557839
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Replied by HustleGrindRelax on topic Question about lowering links
do you know where i can get a set of those for a kz900?
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11 Nov 2012 02:21 #557846
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Jcwhitney probably still sells them,I went through that phase also for about a day when I was younger! :sick:
I dont reccomend them myself,buy a set of shorter shocks
I dont reccomend them myself,buy a set of shorter shocks
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11 Nov 2012 03:59 #557871
by Mullineaux
KZ650 ( '77 Engine, '78 frame, 80's ignition, MAC 4-2 exhaust, Pods, lowered [links])
1980 XS1100 full Vetter dresser
Replied by Mullineaux on topic Question about lowering links
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationI don't think JC sells them anymore, I just looked quick over there. Luckily mine came in a box of parts with the bike. Just being curious I did some searches over the summer and saw some on ebay. Keep your eyes peeled. I will warn you, I've put some miles on the bike since I lowered it and I'm definitely taking the links off when I get the chance. They just make the ass end feel squirrely. That and they stiffen the crap out of the rear end, enough so that a few times some nice bump got me up out of the seat. If you just can't wait consider getting rigid struts, something like this:
I only get an inch of so of travel out the shocks after putting the links on anyways, and I'm a big guy. It might as well be a hardtail.
I only get an inch of so of travel out the shocks after putting the links on anyways, and I'm a big guy. It might as well be a hardtail.
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11 Nov 2012 04:12 #557874
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alright thanks for the info im a big guy to
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