14T sprocket, WHERE ARE YOU?! & biggest tires?

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03 Oct 2012 21:51 #552301 by jbeebe1
I'm starting to gather parts (or links to the parts due to cash reasons lol) for new tires, sprockets, and chain on my build.

It's a 81 kz440 B2.

Stock sprocket sizes are 15/45. This is mainly going to be for ripping around the city of Cleveland, so i'm going to drop a tooth on the front. But i can't seem to find a 14T sprocket anywhere for this bike. help?

so i'm going to go this route with chain and sprockets...
www.oldbikebarn.com/RK-530x100-Standard-...sc=12&category=74767
www.oldbikebarn.com/Kawasaki-Rear-45-Tee...sc=12&category=74767

let me know if you see something wrong there.

Now, stock tire sizes are 90/90 and 100/90. Both front and rear fenders will be chopped, and i want to run as big as possible. I've seen ppl around here on the 440B run 100/90 and 110/90. But is that the biggest i can go on these spoked rims? As i've said, this is mainly for ripping around the city. i'm probably going with the shinko 712's


So, in summary....where can i find a 14T front sprocket? and what's the biggest tires I can run?

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03 Oct 2012 23:17 #552315 by wireman
Your swingarm is biggest limit on width of rear tire to run,how much space do you have? B)

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03 Oct 2012 23:37 - 03 Oct 2012 23:39 #552321 by jbeebe1

wireman wrote: Your swingarm is biggest limit on width of rear tire to run,how much space do you have? B)


i was under the impression that the rim could only handle so much?

i'll measure the rear and the front between the forks and post.

what's the biggest people have successfully run on this bike?

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03 Oct 2012 23:42 #552322 by Nebr_Rex
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As I remember you can go to a 520 chain and use a counter sprocket from a xl250 or xl350 Honda.
The rear takes one custom ordered or stock one narrowed by a machinist.
As for the tire 110 is it.
Bigger tires turn slower, hampering turning and acceration.
If you want to 'go ripping' around town I'd go with the 90/90 & 110/90.
You'll out turn and accelerate a similar bike with over size tires hands down.

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03 Oct 2012 23:47 #552325 by Nebr_Rex
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jbeebe1 wrote:

wireman wrote: Your swingarm is biggest limit on width of rear tire to run,how much space do you have? B)


i was under the impression that the rim could only handle so much?

i'll measure the rear and the front between the forks and post.

what's the biggest people have successfully run on this bike?


110 with a stock rim(1.85).
120 with a 2.15 rim(stock KZ650 or larger rear).
You main obstacle is the location of the chain, it is closer to the center line of the bike than the larger bikes.

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03 Oct 2012 23:54 #552328 by jbeebe1
yea this build is on the cheap, so i'm keeping the rims. Rex, staying with a 90/90 in the front and going up to a 110 in the back is an interesting proposition. Fat tires just look so mean though! haha. You make great points though.


anyone have any source for the front 14T sprocket yet?

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03 Oct 2012 23:59 #552330 by wireman
Have you thought about going 1 up on rear sprocket instead?
Really small front sprockets are more likely to toss a chain.
I know of a stock looking 78 kz1000 that runs around town with a skinny little 110 metzeler rear tire hooked to a really healthy 1385 motor with a lock up clutch and a set of flatslides,thats really good at getting sportbikes on the hook and leaving them wondering what just happened! :woohoo:

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04 Oct 2012 00:10 - 04 Oct 2012 00:18 #552333 by Nebr_Rex
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jbeebe1 wrote: yea this build is on the cheap, so i'm keeping the rims. Rex, staying with a 90/90 in the front and going up to a 110 in the back is an interesting proposition. Fat tires just look so mean though! haha. You make great points though.


anyone have any source for the front 14T sprocket yet?


You are limited to the stock gearing of 15/45, except for one company that makes a 33 and 41 tooth rears for a KZ305.
These are the only bolt on sprockets I have found that are available at this time.
As for the 2.15 rim I posted about on a previous post it has to be relaced to the 400/440 hub.

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04 Oct 2012 00:12 #552336 by jbeebe1
i'm not against going up in the back i suppose. I would want go up 2 in the back if I do though. I couldn't find any rear ones that big either though.

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04 Oct 2012 00:14 #552337 by jbeebe1

Nebr_Rex wrote: You are limited to the stock gearing of 15/45, except for one company that makes a 33 and 41 tooth rears for a KZ305.
These are the only bolt on sprockets I have found that are available at this time.


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04 Oct 2012 00:30 #552341 by wireman
Rebel gear motorcycle products B)

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04 Oct 2012 00:41 - 04 Oct 2012 00:42 #552346 by jbeebe1

wireman wrote: Rebel gear motorcycle products B)


Now we're talkin!

From their catalog it looks like they don't make a smaller front sprocket (unless it's custom made), but they can make a larger rear for me. Only thing is, it looks like they only do aluminum rears. With a steel front, and 530 chain, would an aluminum rear sprocket wear really quick?

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