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06 Mar 2013 12:38 #575627 by bromz
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I put a new master on my front brakes and rebuilt the calipers and new braided lines and I still have a soft lever. Could the bore on the new master be to small. The bore is 14mm im not sure what the original bore is.

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06 Mar 2013 13:01 #575630 by 4TheKZ1000
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Kz bikes just have soft feel on lever....not like the newer bikes.

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06 Mar 2013 13:07 #575631 by 650ed
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Does your bike have dual front disks? Mine does and the bore is 5/8" or 15.875mm. I believe that is the standard size bore for KZ bikes with dual front disks. Ed


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06 Mar 2013 13:58 #575641 by z1kzonly
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bromz wrote: I put a new master on my front brakes and rebuilt the calipers and new braided lines and I still have a soft lever. Could the bore on the new master be to small. The bore is 14mm im not sure what the original bore is.


Yes, 14mm bore is for single disc.
Using it with dual, you will get the spongy feel.

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06 Mar 2013 14:31 - 07 Mar 2013 00:28 #575647 by Patton
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bromz wrote: I put a new master on my front brakes and rebuilt the calipers and new braided lines and I still have a soft lever. Could the bore on the new master be to small. The bore is 14mm im not sure what the original bore is.

Imo the soft lever likely results from residual tiny air bubbles within the fluid inside the brake line. Such bubbles are sometimes difficult to excise via standard bleeding. Often, the softness will dissipate and self-correct during continued usage.

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06 Mar 2013 18:58 #575694 by bromz
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Yes I have dual front disk. when I squeeze my lever I can see the calipers actually squeeze on the rotors. Just didnt know if my barakes should get rock hard. I have bleed and bleed and bleed. Got rid of the splittier and went with two lines all the way down to calipers with double banjo at the master. I even reversed bleed with a syringe. just want to make sure everythink is ok. I can live with the soft brakes if thats all i get with my bike.

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06 Mar 2013 19:10 - 06 Mar 2013 19:11 #575697 by 650ed
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I think you would find the brakes much better if you installed the correct size master cylinder. My brakes are not soft.
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06 Mar 2013 21:36 #575722 by bromz
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I have the original master cylinder but he sight glass is busted out of It and it will need a rebuild. I would have no idea on how to replace the glass correctly

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07 Mar 2013 08:58 #575762 by bluej58
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At the bottom of the reservoir there is a false bottom, I guess you can call it ,that you can pop out and there is two screws underneath that come out to take off the "sight glass ".

You might want to post that you are looking for that piece in the wanted section in the forum, maybe someone can help you out .

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07 Mar 2013 14:09 #575803 by pete greek1
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationI've heard people using 14mm master cylinders with no issues, if bled right, new pads, & rotors up to specs,....

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07 Mar 2013 16:53 #575816 by wireman
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Ive used the small master cylinder with dual discs on many bikes with no troubles,Id try zip tying lever towards the bar to keep pressure on it over night to see if it works any air back up to the master cylinder B)

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07 Mar 2013 17:49 #575828 by bromz
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do i need to open my resivoir when i do that?

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