79KZ650 chain suggestions

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08 Jun 2014 14:55 - 19 Jun 2014 05:17 #635800 by LineArtist
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With the degree of age and overhaul I'm putting into my '79 650, the chain is a mandatory replacement. The factory chain had plenty of oil on it and is not rusted or locked up, however the O-rings are falling off each link. I looked around including Z1 and found a bunch of options for a 530/102 chain. I also want to go with a split connection link and then change it out for a riveted once the bike can make it to a shop on 2 wheels.

1. question... replace with an O-ring stock style or upgrade to an X-ring? I hear the X-ring will last 1.5 - 2x longer than an O-ring chain.

2. question... JT Drive (X), RK racing (X) or BikeMaster (O, and not sure they have a clip connection option)? Not looking for top of the line, just good quality.

I'm leaning on getting the RK chain for $78.50 on Amazon (free shipping) and ordering the split link with several other parts from Z1.

All suggestions are welcome. TY

'79 KZ650B3 (stock)
'79 KZ650B3 (parts bike)
'06 HD 883R
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08 Jun 2014 15:58 - 08 Jun 2014 16:05 #635811 by bountyhunter
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I think the X ring chain is worth it. I don't know the brand but Z1 only stocks the best stuff. On Amazon or Ebay you may get crap. With Z1, the split link is the one matched to the chain.

The 102 link X-ring at Z1 is $64 which is a great deal IMHO:

www.z1enterprises.com/ItemDetails.aspx?i...tem=BAJTC530X1R102RL

Here's the master link:


www.z1enterprises.com/ItemDetails.aspx?i...g&item=BAJTC530X1RSL

I used a split master link for the last 35 years and have never had a problem.

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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08 Jun 2014 17:24 #635822 by Nessism
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Can't go wrong with the RK. The JT looks decent too. JT sprockets are high quality. You can't go wrong with those two brands.

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08 Jun 2014 17:30 #635824 by 650ed
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Be sure to replace both the front and rear sprockets when you install a new chain. Otherwise, any wear on the sprockets will very quickly kill the chain. Also, use a new countersprocket lock washer. If your countersprocket lock washer is the type with the tab that engages the sprocket, be sure that the new countersprocket, if not a genuine Kawasaki item, has the hole in it for the tab. Drilling such a hole into the countersprocket can be a challenge. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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08 Jun 2014 18:16 - 08 Jun 2014 18:17 #635832 by bountyhunter
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The $64 chain at Z1 is this brand:

530 Chain JT Expert HD 102 link 'X' Ring

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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09 Jun 2014 07:05 - 09 Jun 2014 07:21 #635902 by LineArtist
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Thanks, I was surprised to note the factory chain didn't have a split link connector. I'll most likely keep the split link on the chain since this bike will be going through more maintenance and transformation.

Z1 sells both the RT and JTsprockets chains. I'll get the JT X-link.

I looked at the sprockets and they don't show any significant wear at 10,400 miles, but they were certainly caked with all kinds of grease and grim from sitting. I will put the suggestion on my list and take a closer look at both sprockets.

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'79 KZ650B3 (stock)
'79 KZ650B3 (parts bike)
'06 HD 883R
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09 Jun 2014 08:53 #635907 by pete greek1
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A 530 chai will NOT work on 630 sprockets, your going to have to get 530 sprockets, Talk to someone at Z1 & they'll get you the right size sprockets for your conversion
Pete

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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09 Jun 2014 18:40 #635962 by LineArtist
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pete greek1 wrote: A 530 chai will NOT work on 630 sprockets, your going to have to get 530 sprockets, Talk to someone at Z1 & they'll get you the right size sprockets for your conversion
Pete


630?

Pete, where are you getting the 630 sprocket specification? My understanding is that the stock '79 650 is a 530/102 chain with a 42T in the back and 16T in the front for sprockets .

'79 KZ650B3 (stock)
'79 KZ650B3 (parts bike)
'06 HD 883R

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09 Jun 2014 18:41 #635963 by 650ed
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LineArtist wrote:

pete greek1 wrote: A 530 chai will NOT work on 630 sprockets, your going to have to get 530 sprockets, Talk to someone at Z1 & they'll get you the right size sprockets for your conversion
Pete


630?

Pete, where are you getting the 630 sprocket specification? My understanding is that the stock '79 650 is a 530/102 chain with a 42T in the back and 16T in the front for sprockets .


Correct. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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10 Jun 2014 05:41 #636012 by pete greek1
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Lineartist, My mistake, was thinking my 900 & 1000 that i'm converting from 630 to 530, I had a brain fart :ohmy: :laugh:

1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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10 Jun 2014 12:41 #636058 by wireman
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LineArtist wrote: Thanks, I was surprised to note the factory chain didn't have a split link connector. I'll most likely keep the split link on the chain since this bike will be going through more maintenance and transformation.

Z1 sells both the RT and JTsprockets chains. I'll get the JT X-link.

I looked at the sprockets and they don't show any significant wear at 10,400 miles, but they were certainly caked with all kinds of grease and grim from sitting. I will put the suggestion on my list and take a closer look at both sprockets.

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Always change chain and sprockets as a set. :)

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11 Jun 2014 08:06 #636133 by LineArtist
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I understand the need to replace the chain and sprockets as a set, mainly for safety and longevity of the parts. If my bike was in running condition when I received it, the chain most likely would remain on the bike for several 1000 miles more. It just seems needless to replace the sprockets at this point (in my case only). If i was replacing the chain due to wear or high mileage, indeed the sprockets would also be replaced.

My bike sat somewhere since 2002 and although the chain looks "ok" because it had plenty of oil on it, the O-rings haven't survived the years of neglect. I don't mean to hesitate in replacing parts but there seems to be several factors in determining when and what to replace based on the condition of a bike.

'79 KZ650B3 (stock)
'79 KZ650B3 (parts bike)
'06 HD 883R

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