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Replacing Front and Rear Sprockets Question
- Irish-Kawi
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I am considering changing the front and rear tooth count on my sprockets when I do replace them but I am not sure what I should change the tooth count and where i.e., front or rear or just front or just rear etc.
My riding style is mainly mountains and canyons, highways/interstates, city and small town rural roads so nothing crazy and certainly no tracks, but I would like to give it a bit more zip off the line as long as it is not so much that I sacrifice high speed causing. I have only ridden it a handful of times last fall before the weather gave out and I had to put it up in storage and start wrenching when time allowed. That being said I don't remember exactly what the rpms are at when traveling 80-85mph but I would swear it was at least under or near 5000rpms? I'm running stock tire sizes 110/90-18 and 130/80-18 rear, so if I did change the teeth/gearing what would I expect for revs at 80-85mph after doing so? Would I need to get a different chain size other than the 84 link, and if so then once again what size would I need then?
All of this aspect of motorcycles is completely new and foreign to me so I am very ignorant about what is I am sure very simple and obvious stuff, thanks for bearing with me.
Brett
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Changing the rear to a 40T would give a similar calculation. 5,000 x ((40/15)/(45/15)) = 4444 rpm
Changing both front and rear, front 14 t rear 50t, 5,000 x ((50/14) /(45/15)) = 5,942 rpm
And so on.
You really need to get a feel for how what you have performs, to know where you'd like to be, whether you want higher gearing for cruising or more acceleration, calculating the rpms at your cruising speed is a good idea when dropping the gearing because you need to know you will still have a reasonable ability to cruise without revving the daylights out of your motor.
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Many of the sites I am looking at don't have 40T rear sprockets but 41 is much more common. If mine has a 38T now and I go to a 41T will it be a noticeable "seat of the pants" difference? I'm assuming so but with only changing 3T I'd hope it's not drastically different. As I said I don't want to change the bike completely away from where it was stock, just a little quicker in acceleration response below 50mph, that around town and most roads kinda thing.
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Brett
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Taking the swing arm off is probably not a bad idea, as the swing arm bearings and the pivot bolt can need a little bit of CLT and grease, so it don’t rust and get seized.
Unfortunately the air-cooled Gpz750 83-89 (ZX750A1-A5) came with an original 5~6mm offset front sprocket and they were only manufactured in the original 15 tooth configuration.
That sprocket can still be had at JT Sprockets for instance,
www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/1149
Front: JTF514 15 tooth, 630 chain with the 13, 25 filament.
Rear: JTR501 38 tooth.
You can play around with your rear sprocket, but up front you are stuck, if you don’t buy the more exclusive custom made offset sprockets, but I don’t think it’s worth it, unless you are going for a fatter rear wheel.
So your options are to go up at the rear getting higher top speed or go down and gain acceleration.
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1. The bike needs a proper tune up.
2. Someone has already changed your sprocket sizes to something inappropriate.
3. Someone has screwed with your bikes engine which has ruined low end performance - such as they put pods on the carbs?
4. You need more experience riding to take full advantage of the quickness of your GPz750.
The stock rear sprocket on the ZX750-A3 has 38 teeth. See:
www.powersportswarehouse.com/p/Kawasaki#...0-A3-1985/080186E-13
The stock front sprocket on the ZX750-A3 has 15 teeth. See:
www.powersportswarehouse.com/p/Kawasaki#...0-A3-1985/080186B-13
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Edit: you might want to search around for some 530 conversion sprockets. Question is whether or not anyone makes an offset sprocket for the front. The rear should be easy. Since the stock 630 sprocket is a 15 you would want to move to a 17 or maybe an 18 in 530 otherwise you will lose too much diameter. The match for the 17 front would be a 43 rear in 530.
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Got that right!! I'm always looking for that elusive 6th gear!redhawk4 wrote: My experience with most of the Kawasakis I've owned or ridden is that they are usually geared fairly low and sporty in their stock configuration and you often find yourself looking to upshift when you are already in top gear. I see some people running some very low gearing but usually I find myself contemplating going the other way for a more relaxing cruising speed. If you lower the gearing this really only has a big effect on your first gear and initial get away since once up and rolling the bikes will rev through the other gears quickly enough for all practical road going purposes.
I had a 14 and 35 on the KZ1000A1 for a while last spring and summer....and it was wicked fast up to about +110mph-115mph.... then I put a 15 tooth on it to lower the RPMs on the freeway....and it is still wicked fast!!!
But it is more calm on the freeway and I actually considered trading off a little of that wicked fast crap for a more sedate cruising RPM.
So I did what Steve did, and bought myself a new 630, two link longer chain, a new 35 tooth rear and a 16 tooth CS sprocket that I will be trying this season. I could put the new 33 tooth rear on too but that be neutering it a bit too much.
I suspect it will still pull like a freight train....
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