Removing front brake switch. Or should I say "attempting" to remove!!

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15 Nov 2020 07:44 #838512 by Kozman011
Hello gents!

I hope the weekend is finding everyone well. I have my front brake components completely removed from the bike. 1977 KX650 single disc. I have taken all the hoses off of the "T junction" and am wanting to refurbish the junction piece. I have done everything to get that brake switch off. Soaked it in penetrant for a week and even put the switch in a vise and torque on the junction with a wrench. Nothing. Not sure where else to go. I'm half tempted to cut it off and dig the threads out, which I'm OK with buying a new switch. Any thoughts? I'm sure a wise nugget of wisdom will pop up here! Thanks, as always!!

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15 Nov 2020 08:27 #838514 by Rick H.
Well Kozman, the only thing that pops into my head is perhaps whoever may have had the switch out before could have put some form of thread locker on it. Or it could just be some nasty form of corrosion that took place between the parts. Do you see any type of sealant on the joint area? You could as a last resort, before breaking something, try some heat on the junction block close to where the switch threads in. Try to only heat the junction block around the switch and see if that helps. I would use a propane torch for this and keep the flame low for control. Not sure what penetrant you used, but Kroil seems to work best for me. If you break the switch off I fear getting the broken end out of the junction would be a bummer. Good luck....
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15 Nov 2020 08:48 #838516 by Kozman011
Thanks Rick. I've been soaking it in PBBlaster. I did hit it with a propane torch previously, but that's before I had the vise installed. Maybe I'll give that a try again. I just need to go pick up some vise jaw protectors before I mess up that brake line junction. I don't recall seeing any thread locker, but I'm sure this switch is original.

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15 Nov 2020 09:04 - 15 Nov 2020 09:19 #838518 by martin_csr
pbb didn't do very good in a couple of test floating around the internet. Kroil is supposed to be best, but Liquid Wrench penetrating spray lubricant is also good. I've had good luck with the LW. ..... Penetrant soak time & vibration w wood block & mallet can help.
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15 Nov 2020 09:55 #838522 by gd4now
Did either of the banjo bolts create the same issue when removed from the 3 way junction? I would think the switch would not need to be any tighter. As others have indicated you may need to worry it with some type of penetrant , heat etc. As to jaws of the vice you can use soft pieces of wood. to protect the 3 way junction.

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15 Nov 2020 10:16 #838524 by Nerdy

Kozman011 wrote: I just need to go pick up some vise jaw protectors before I mess up that brake line junction.



You don't need anything special for that. Stop by any hardware store and pick up a piece of 1" or 1.25" angle aluminum: a 3ft piece will give you three sets of jaw protectors for a 6" vise. B)

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15 Nov 2020 11:10 #838526 by 73z1
Bolt junction to the tree, use vise grips or pipe wrench.
I replaced a switch, it was very tight, was able to remove with vise grips.

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15 Nov 2020 13:31 - 15 Nov 2020 13:39 #838531 by 650ed

Kozman011 wrote: Hello gents!

I hope the weekend is finding everyone well. I have my front brake components completely removed from the bike. 1977 KX650 single disc. I have taken all the hoses off of the "T junction" and am wanting to refurbish the junction piece. I have done everything to get that brake switch off. Soaked it in penetrant for a week and even put the switch in a vise and torque on the junction with a wrench. Nothing. Not sure where else to go. I'm half tempted to cut it off and dig the threads out, which I'm OK with buying a new switch. Any thoughts? I'm sure a wise nugget of wisdom will pop up here! Thanks, as always!!


Got any pictures of that "KX650" bike? I know there is a Kawasaki KLX650 (see below) and a KZ650, but I haven't seen a KX650. Ed

www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/kawasaki...saki_klx650%2093.htm

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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15 Nov 2020 19:40 #838539 by z1kzonly
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16 Nov 2020 05:08 #838546 by 73z1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Got any pictures of that "KX650" bike? I know there is a Kawasaki KLX650 (see below) and a KZ650, but I haven't seen a KX650. Ed
Z and X are near on keyboard.
77 to 83 KZ650 - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Z650

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16 Nov 2020 10:47 #838557 by z1kzonly
At one time a few yrs. ago, I had a pile of about a dozen singles. I would have given you one . But I sold off most of my left overs. They are all the same I assume this is what you need?
Parts Godzilla:
This Kawasaki 43061-002 JOINT,THREE WAY Not Available fits the following models and components:

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1973 Z1 Z1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1974 Z1-A Z1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ400-A1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ400-A2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KZ900-A4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ400-B1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ400-B2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1975 Z1-B Z1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ900-A5 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ400-D4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('76 -'77 KZ400 -

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KZ400-D3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('76 -'77 KZ400 -

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1975 KZ400-D FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('76 -'77 KZ400 -

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1974 KZ400 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('76 -'77 KZ400 -

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1974 KZ400 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('74 -'75 KZ400/KZ

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ400-D4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('74 -'75 KZ400/KZ

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KZ400-D3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('74 -'75 KZ400/KZ

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1975 KZ400-D FRONT MASTER CYLINDER ('74 -'75 KZ400/KZ

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1974 Mach II - S3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KH400-A4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KH400-A3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KH400-A5 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1975 Mach II - S3-A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A3/A4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KH400-A3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A5)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KH400-A5 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A5)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1975 Mach II - S3-A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A5)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KH400-A4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A5)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1974 Mach II - S3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH400-A5)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KH500-A8 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1972 H1-C FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1975 H1-F FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1970 H1-A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1971 H1-B FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1974 H1-E FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1973 H1-D FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1969 Mach III - H1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KH500-A8)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A3A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A2A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A3A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A2/A2A)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A2/A2A)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A2/A2A)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1980 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A2/A2A)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A2/A2A)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ1000 - KZ1000-A2A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ1000-A2/A2A)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ650-B2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ650-B2A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ650-B3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ650-B1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B1)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ650-B3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B2/B2A/B3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ650-B2A FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B2/B2A/B3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ650-B2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B2/B2A/B3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ650-B1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ650-B2/B2A/B3)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ750-B4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B1/B2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KZ750-B1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B1/B2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ750-B2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B1/B2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ750-B3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B1/B2)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1978 KZ750-B3 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B3/B4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1977 KZ750-B2 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B3/B4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1979 KZ750-B4 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B3/B4)

Kawasaki Motorcycle 1976 KZ750-B1 FRONT MASTER CYLINDER (KZ750-B3/B4)

Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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16 Nov 2020 10:50 #838558 by z1kzonly
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Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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