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1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?

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22 Sep 2022 11:16 #874259 by kzstreetfighter71
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Well the LTD is just a title, its the same bike as the A1 just came with a different tank, seat, wheels and a few other bits and pieces. Look at the positives here, wire wheels off an A1 or A2. Police tank, they still fetch a few dollars, decent exhaust plus the original, Got a nice Z1 reproduction seat, looks near new. Its a blank canvas and i guess at a good price, i wouldnt turn my nose up at it, in fact i would probably by it out form under you, im actually going to look at and LTD this Sunday with a bit of an identity crisis too. see if ye can spot the different parts on this girl.

06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
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22 Sep 2022 11:34 #874261 by kevski
Replied by kevski on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
Don't discount a ltd,  my own looks nothing like one and does the same job without me worrying about having a stock original
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22 Sep 2022 16:03 #874276 by Street Fighter LTD
Replied by Street Fighter LTD on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
I never will understand negitive LTD remarks or  values on the market.
When I bought mine new it was a step above the regular KZs.
sportier gas tank lines. triple disc brakes, bobbed  chrome fenders. 
Chopper styled seat and pipes  with mag wheels
Flashier paintjobs .
 Oh well . Toeach his own.
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23 Sep 2022 14:14 #874353 by kzstreetfighter71
Replied by kzstreetfighter71 on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
So i bit the bullet and put my money where my mouth is today and added another horse to the stable, 78 kz1000 Ltd, you could be missing a deal with that bike if you pass it up, dont let 3 letters brake the deal, a Z is a Z.

06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
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25 Sep 2022 01:29 - 25 Sep 2022 01:30 #874475 by calum
Replied by calum on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
Do the LTD's on the 900/1000 not have more rake? On the 750's the LTD is at 30° whereas the 750E has 27°. I always assumed that was why people didn't want an LTD frame.
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25 Sep 2022 01:41 #874477 by kevski
Replied by kevski on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?

Do the LTD's on the 900/1000 not have more rake? On the 750's the LTD is at 30° whereas the 750E has 27°. I always assumed that was why people didn't want an LTD frame.
not to my knowledge, smaller rear wheel with larger tyre, maybe shorter shocks,  mine has shocks the same length as the  a1/2, handles great.
 
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25 Sep 2022 02:32 - 25 Sep 2022 02:34 #874478 by kzstreetfighter71
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Do the LTD's on the 900/1000 not have more rake? On the 750's the LTD is at 30° whereas the 750E has 27°. I always assumed that was why people didn't want an LTD frame.



 
Not on the early big 4's mate, apart from tabs, exhaust and battery mounts and a few other bits and pieces the 73 to 78 frames were all the same. the Z1r is where things started to change but the rake stayed the same. Its just the sigma in the name, it was Kawasaki trying to make a chopper form a road bike but the bones of the LTD and all its siblings are the same.

06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
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25 Sep 2022 02:42 #874480 by Wookie58
Replied by Wookie58 on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
My 82 Ltd has an extra 2 degrees over a "J" and the forks are 20mm longer

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25 Sep 2022 02:55 #874482 by kzstreetfighter71
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My 82 Ltd has an extra 2 degrees over a "J" and the forks are 20mm longer
 
Yea i think it was in 81 is where the start to play around with Rake on the LTD. Once again correct me if im wrong but even the 1980 B4 had the the same rake as the original big 4's.

06 Gsf 1200 bandit, 08 Triumph tiger 1010
05 Yam xv1700 , 02 Hon shadow 1100
1975 Z1 (currently working on)
1977 Z1000 ( running and in storage)
1978 Z1000 (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "skinny tank" (currently working on)
1978 Z1r "fat tank (gathering parts)
1979 z1000st (currently working on)
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25 Sep 2022 09:04 #874498 by calum
Replied by calum on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?

My 82 Ltd has an extra 2 degrees over a "J" and the forks are 20mm longer

 
Yea i think it was in 81 is where the start to play around with Rake on the LTD. Once again correct me if im wrong but even the 1980 B4 had the the same rake as the original big 4's.
That makes sense - the 1980 750H must have been the first experiment. Must have gone over well so they decided to mess with the big bikes :)
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25 Sep 2022 09:18 #874501 by gd4now
Replied by gd4now on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
I could be wrong (would not be the first time) but in 81 both the CSR and LTD (1000's) change to a leading front axle fork (axle in front of the fork not at the bottom of the fork) which most likely changed the rake numbers.

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25 Sep 2022 09:22 #874503 by calum
Replied by calum on topic 1978 KZ1000 for sale - What is it worth?
Wouldn't that just change the trail (shorten it for the increased rake)?

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