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04 Apr 2023 10:29 #882492 by DanMadBoy

In the interest of accuracy.

luminous green is a 1978 Z1000a2 colour.

Candy emerald Green is a 1977 Z650 colour.

Sorry Bill! 
 
yeah sorry I called it by the wrong name. I meant candy emerald. In any case I was SHOCKED they had the SAME exact thing!!!

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04 Apr 2023 10:54 #882494 by Warren3200gt
Replied by Warren3200gt on topic Questions for a Painter: KZ Tank and Rear Fairing
Dan, all the b1 to b4 models had side panels painted the same colours as the tank originally so if yours are unpainted abs black plastic they must be replacements. So if your trying to get back to stock they should be painted. 


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04 Apr 2023 12:39 #882498 by SWest
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04 Apr 2023 14:26 - 04 Apr 2023 14:48 #882505 by F64
I'd leave it up to the painter to figure out how they want to go about the process.
A lot of times they develop their own system through trial and error especially with kandies.
All of the parts have to be sprayed at the same time as matching paint later on is almost impossible.

Which means touching up this paint job will be impossible if it gets damaged later on.
It will need a complete respray for the whole bike to match properly.

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04 Apr 2023 16:52 - 05 Apr 2023 15:11 #882511 by DanMadBoy

Dan, all the b1 to b4 models had side panels painted the same colours as the tank originally so if yours are unpainted abs black plastic they must be replacements. So if your trying to get back to stock they should be painted.
 

My panels are original and in great shape. I wont be repainting them.
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04 Apr 2023 17:22 - 04 Apr 2023 20:49 #882514 by DanMadBoy

At the same time with the same batch or they will stand out. 

 

On my KZ750 the side panels are WAY darker than the tank because of the way the Sun hit the bike while in the possession of the previous owner, who left it out a lot. I dont really mind the difference. The painter pulled a color very close to the tank, so Im hoping its not too far off from the panels original panels which do not need repainting. .
 
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04 Apr 2023 19:52 - 05 Apr 2023 15:12 #882521 by DanMadBoy


6. $600 is peanuts for a nice three stage paint job.



 
Cant wait.
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05 Apr 2023 14:14 - 05 Apr 2023 15:11 #882550 by DanMadBoy
The painter sent me this shot. Pick up date has been moved to Monday.

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05 Apr 2023 16:13 - 05 Apr 2023 16:19 #882553 by Scirocco
I would remove the fuel cap or let it stay open full covered in tape. Paint and primer dust can clogged the vent.
Dont paint the fuel tank opening and fuel cap gasket surface or the E5/10 fuel will destroy the fresh paint like a paint stripper.
You need a small bare steel barrier where the fuel can vaporised before it get in contact with the fresh paint!
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05 Apr 2023 17:31 - 05 Apr 2023 20:05 #882555 by DanMadBoy

I would remove the fuel cap or let it stay open full covered in tape. Paint and primer dust can clogged the vent.
Dont paint the fuel tank opening and fuel cap gasket surface or the E5/10 fuel will destroy the fresh paint like a paint stripper.
You need a small bare steel barrier where the fuel can vaporised before it get in contact with the fresh paint!

 

Thanks. Im out of the country (caribbean) from tomorrow morning until Monday afternoon so I wont see the painter until the tank is finished. I guess I will have to clean the vent if its clogged, when I get the tank back.
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07 Apr 2023 16:01 #882628 by DanMadBoy

1. It is best if the metal is in good shape, not dented.
I will fill two small dings beyond that time for new parts.
Let them do whatever they want.

2. Typical is two primer coats, two base coats, two mid coats, two clear coats.
Painters may have a formula that works best for them.

2b. Most three stage systems are urethane, there may be others.

3. Usually two.

3b: Kawasaki used three stage systems, base, mid, clear, you need three stages to get anywhere close to factory paint.

4. I prefer all paint under clear, some painters may add stripes on top of clear coat.

5. Hiring someone to paint a car or motorcycle is like gambling in vegas
Unless you have dealt with this person before anything is possible.

6. $600 is peanuts for a nice three stage paint job.




 
all done
 

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08 Apr 2023 16:11 - 08 Apr 2023 16:12 #882732 by DanMadBoy

I would remove the fuel cap or let it stay open full covered in tape. Paint and primer dust can clogged the vent.
Dont paint the fuel tank opening and fuel cap gasket surface or the E5/10 fuel will destroy the fresh paint like a paint stripper.
You need a small bare steel barrier where the fuel can vaporised before it get in contact with the fresh paint!



 

Spoke to the painter today. Though the final touches were mostly done yesterday, hes going to take the paint off the lip/lid as he always planned to do. I was going to get it today, but he adivsed to let the paint and clearcoat settle a bit,  let him clear the lip, and that I should pick it up Monday.

I cant wait. He did an AMAZING job!

 
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