Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
01 Jan 2017 10:52
Nice looking motor and carbs. Ditch those plastic jets, they are typically poorly made and inaccurate. I make a point of using genuine items for carbs as removing them for tweaking is a royal pain and todays' fuels probably don't help them either.
nice progress.
David
nice progress.
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1974 Z1A As original as I could get it
'88 ZX750R braided lines, mostly original
KZ1000 project on the bench
Burlington,Ontario,Canada
'88 ZX750R braided lines, mostly original
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
01 Jan 2017 11:55
Thanks for the advice guys.
Will start with 120 25 and take it from there.
I think it will take me another 2-3 weeks before I can start the beast
Headers will be arriving end of the week and then I have to fit something between the end of the collector and my exhaust.
Also need to fabricate a bracket to keep everything in place.
Minor setback, my left front caliper is leaking
took a change with the old seals and lost.
Have to take them apart and see what the problem is.
Eric
Will start with 120 25 and take it from there.
I think it will take me another 2-3 weeks before I can start the beast

Headers will be arriving end of the week and then I have to fit something between the end of the collector and my exhaust.
Also need to fabricate a bracket to keep everything in place.
Minor setback, my left front caliper is leaking

Have to take them apart and see what the problem is.
Eric
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
04 Jan 2017 12:09
Licence plate holder and blinker, done.
Throttle cables from a ZZR600 , done.
Hydraulic clutch, done?!
I cut 5 mm of the clutch shaft.
Bled the line and have a cylinder moving.
However..... it moves only for about 2mm, is this enough for the clutch to disengage?
Headers will be arriving end of the week.
Carbs are fitted with 122 main jets (metal ones)
Hope first start in about 3 weeks.
Throttle cables from a ZZR600 , done.
Hydraulic clutch, done?!
I cut 5 mm of the clutch shaft.
Bled the line and have a cylinder moving.
However..... it moves only for about 2mm, is this enough for the clutch to disengage?
Headers will be arriving end of the week.
Carbs are fitted with 122 main jets (metal ones)
Hope first start in about 3 weeks.
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
06 Jan 2017 06:08
the bike looks awesome wiers!!! :evil:
i'm a lil curious about you having vibration (metal fatigue/cracking)issues with your flat sheet metal tail light bracket tho .?
it seems an upright piece of sheetmetal on edge welded or rivited in line between the frame and the back of the light could go a long way to damping the vibes there.
bike turned out great thanks for letting us follow along.
leon
p.s.how long did your clutch cover spacers end up being?
leon
i'm a lil curious about you having vibration (metal fatigue/cracking)issues with your flat sheet metal tail light bracket tho .?
it seems an upright piece of sheetmetal on edge welded or rivited in line between the frame and the back of the light could go a long way to damping the vibes there.
bike turned out great thanks for letting us follow along.
leon
p.s.how long did your clutch cover spacers end up being?
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
07 Jan 2017 13:20
Hi Leon,
You are right about the tail light bracket, I am gonna change that to something with a vertical piece of metal.
The spacers are the standard length from D&G, I just put the piston against the rod and measured the distance between the hydrailic clutch and the D&G plate.
This was about 5 mm and this is wat I cut of the rod.
Now the unit unit is flush with the D&G plate and the ball of the piston is gently pushing against the rod.
After bleeding the line the springs of the clutch keeps the piston at its place (it is much stronger than the spring behind the piston).
My only concern is that it moves for only 2 mm (see pictures) and wonder if that is enough the disengage the clutch.
Thanks for following my build and for your positive input.
Eric
You are right about the tail light bracket, I am gonna change that to something with a vertical piece of metal.
The spacers are the standard length from D&G, I just put the piston against the rod and measured the distance between the hydrailic clutch and the D&G plate.
This was about 5 mm and this is wat I cut of the rod.
Now the unit unit is flush with the D&G plate and the ball of the piston is gently pushing against the rod.
After bleeding the line the springs of the clutch keeps the piston at its place (it is much stronger than the spring behind the piston).
My only concern is that it moves for only 2 mm (see pictures) and wonder if that is enough the disengage the clutch.
Thanks for following my build and for your positive input.
Eric
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
07 Jan 2017 20:44 - 07 Jan 2017 20:44
Lovely work Wiers....I think you may have to harden the end of the push rod having cut off that 5mm. I believe they came with both ends hardened from the factory.
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
07 Jan 2017 21:53Wiers wrote: Hi Leon,
You are right about the tail light bracket, I am gonna change that to something with a vertical piece of metal.
The spacers are the standard length from D&G, I just put the piston against the rod and measured the distance between the hydrailic clutch and the D&G plate.
This was about 5 mm and this is wat I cut of the rod.
Now the unit unit is flush with the D&G plate and the ball of the piston is gently pushing against the rod.
After bleeding the line the springs of the clutch keeps the piston at its place (it is much stronger than the spring behind the piston).
My only concern is that it moves for only 2 mm (see pictures) and wonder if that is enough the disengage the clutch.
Thanks for following my build and for your positive input.
Eric
What Clutch Slave Cylinder are you using?
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
08 Jan 2017 13:39
I do not know from which bike the clutch slave cylinder is.
It came in a box of parts with the bike.
I think it is from a Kawa and have seen it a lot on this forum.
About the rod ends, how can you harden them?
Eric
It came in a box of parts with the bike.
I think it is from a Kawa and have seen it a lot on this forum.
About the rod ends, how can you harden them?
Eric
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
08 Jan 2017 16:10
I don't think that's necessary.
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
08 Jan 2017 17:39
It isn't necessary to harden the shaft on the pusher. Drag race buddy who is the local god of Kawi engines says the clutch only opens about 80 thousands of an inch when working properly. You may find another bleed after riding a bit may allow a little bit more air to escape, it doesn't take much to soften the action.
Good luck
David
Good luck
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'88 ZX750R braided lines, mostly original
KZ1000 project on the bench
Burlington,Ontario,Canada
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
09 Jan 2017 15:07
Thanks,
That takes care of one problem.
On to the next....
Throttle cable, Dyna Coils and wiring are all fighting for the same space
And the winner is..
The fuel tank :pinch:
The fuel tank is hitting my welded braces and does not leave any room in the front for electrical kabels.
When looking under the tank I found this.
It looks that there is an option of welding the rod one point further backward.
Is that for other model tanks??
Not an option for me because if I put it further backwards My seat would not fit anymore.
Only option I have is taking the grinder and start attacking the frame.
And lifting the backend a bit by taping some foam under the tank rubbers.
Also my front brakes started leaking again
Taking the day off tomorrow.
That takes care of one problem.
On to the next....
Throttle cable, Dyna Coils and wiring are all fighting for the same space

And the winner is..
The fuel tank :pinch:
The fuel tank is hitting my welded braces and does not leave any room in the front for electrical kabels.
When looking under the tank I found this.
It looks that there is an option of welding the rod one point further backward.
Is that for other model tanks??
Not an option for me because if I put it further backwards My seat would not fit anymore.
Only option I have is taking the grinder and start attacking the frame.
And lifting the backend a bit by taping some foam under the tank rubbers.
Also my front brakes started leaking again

Taking the day off tomorrow.
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Re: Dutch 1977 Z1000 Build
09 Jan 2017 15:34
I'd be worried about the tank leaking. Maybe denting it in those places?
Steve
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