Using a drill as an electric starter?

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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

06 Jul 2023 13:19
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Project Farm starts his lawn mowers with a battery drill.
"Swim against the current, even a dead fish can go with the flow"-somebody (I forget Who)
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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

06 Jul 2023 13:59
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What have you got lose (except a garage window when the socket flys off  ) just watch you don't break your wrist 
 

Fortunately the workshop is in the basement and has only one window, so nothing can go wrong there.

I plan to start by pulling the spark plug and turning the engine over with the cordless as a sort of baseline: if it really struggles, I'll switch to the smaller corded drill and see how that goes. Then re-install the plug and try again, etc. I'm hoping to get to it this weekend. Cheers!

Oooh, I better check the battery.
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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

07 Jul 2023 09:38 - 07 Jul 2023 09:40
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It is/was a pretty common mod in the flat track world. Especially old guys riding/racing old cantankerous vintage bikes     See the modified cover with the flush fitting bolt in the middle of the cover. ;)

 

dammit... ETA #2. It didn't use a drill motor. Off the top of my head, it was a Toyota truck starter motor mounted onto a hand held frame. Sorry, no pics of it  :(
Don't be ridiculous! It's only a flesh wound!

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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

07 Jul 2023 12:07
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It is/was a pretty common mod in the flat track world. Especially old guys riding/racing old cantankerous vintage bikes     See the modified cover with the flush fitting bolt in the middle of the cover. ;)
dammit... ETA #2. It didn't use a drill motor. Off the top of my head, it was a Toyota truck starter motor mounted onto a hand held frame. Sorry, no pics of it  :(
 
Toyota diesel truck starter motor, just as strong as the 440 Chrysler but more compact, more $$ used. I believe they are a high torque starter motor.
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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

07 Jul 2023 13:03
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It is/was a pretty common mod in the flat track world. Especially old guys riding/racing old cantankerous vintage bikes     See the modified cover with the flush fitting bolt in the middle of the cover. ;)
dammit... ETA #2. It didn't use a drill motor. Off the top of my head, it was a Toyota truck starter motor mounted onto a hand held frame. Sorry, no pics of it  :(

 
Toyota diesel truck starter motor, just as strong as the 440 Chrysler but more compact, more $$ used. I believe they are a high torque starter motor.
I believe mine was from the gas model. Either way, it was turning over almost 670ccs at a time of 13:1 on that old blue bike in the picture above. If you're using one to spin a 4 cylinder, 1000 cc, you're really only compressing 250cc at a time. Easy peasey. 
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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

07 Jul 2023 13:42
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Gasoline drag bikes these days are 1500-1670cc - running off the shelf 13:1 piston that is decked from both directions yielding anywhere from 300-340 PSI cranking compression. They now require specific high torque starters, don't know if the old Chrysler unit would last too long. They were prone to breaking shafts on a hot start, if you run big CC supercharged and over 50% Nitro they don't work.

Even my little 831cc NA injected bike running 40% Nitro would lock up the Chrysler starter the odd time.
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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

07 Jul 2023 15:49
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I've heard that ' ignition timing ' can greatly influence start up requirements on any motor.  Just 2 cents.....

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Re: Using a drill as an electric starter?

07 Jul 2023 19:04
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I've heard that ' ignition timing ' can greatly influence start up requirements on any motor.  Just 2 cents.....

 

 
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