Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

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02 Aug 2023 16:14
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Thanks for the info! got a question, I can only track down 3 oversized pistons. would it be possible to use 3 over size and 1 standard ? or would this unbalance everything ?

 
It's been done before as a last resort but not really recommended although i have had engines in that have had similar done ( 3 stock and 1 OS ) and were running just fine.
The OS piston would need weight matching to the others at the very least.
 
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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

02 Aug 2023 16:17
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okay, thanks, I can get 3 O/S but can't find a fourth so was thinking of doing the 3 O/S and 1 standard  or 2 standard and 2 O/S. :/

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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

02 Aug 2023 16:23
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okay, thanks, I can get 3 O/S but can't find a fourth so was thinking of doing the 3 O/S and 1 standard  or 2 standard and 2 O/S. :/
What model pistons do you mean , 400,500,550 ? and why can't you use 4 std if you can use 2 .
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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

04 Aug 2023 01:34 - 04 Aug 2023 01:34
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It may be worth searching some of the Japanese websites for pistons - due to taxation and insurance brackets 400's where hugely popular in Japan (hence the flood of 400 imports to the UK in the 80's - GSXR's, CBR's, ZXR's etc) "cruzinimage" don't list them but probably worth an email?
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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

04 Aug 2023 16:12 - 04 Aug 2023 16:13
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If your going to all this trouble and can afford the cost used good forged pistons = Wiseco 615cc kit

You get a nice bump in compression and some tougher pistons.
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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

15 Aug 2023 12:54
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Instead of starting a new thread I can ask here maybe?

Would it be possible to put a 400 crank in a GPZ550 engine to make it 500cc?

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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

15 Aug 2023 13:53 - 15 Aug 2023 16:36
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Instead of starting a new thread I can ask here maybe?

Would it be possible to put a 400 crank in a GPZ550 engine to make it 500cc?

Kr Sixten
Yes! but you will still need to shorten the 550 block and use a shorter camchain etc.
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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

16 Aug 2023 04:22 - 16 Aug 2023 04:43
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The machining is no problem.
It should be possible to use the 400 cam chain I guess?

Would make a cheap and hopefully powerful and reliable 500cc race engine.

I found this engine en Europe. 
www.motorparts-online.com/en/kawasaki/gp...994/engine/201523834

Says it’s 1989-1994 but it looks the same to me. Does anyone know if it’s the same?

 
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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

16 Aug 2023 06:57
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The machining is no problem.
It should be possible to use the 400 cam chain I guess?

Would make a cheap and hopefully powerful and reliable 500cc race engine.

I found this engine en Europe. 
www.motorparts-online.com/en/kawasaki/gp...994/engine/201523834

Says it’s 1989-1994 but it looks the same to me. Does anyone know if it’s the same?


 
That will do the job for the bottom end.
They all use a hyvo camchain so which ever combo of parts is used the 400 chain will be needed.


 
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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

16 Aug 2023 07:52
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Thanks for all the advice.
Maybe this can be a winter project for next season.

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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

31 Aug 2023 07:20
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Hi again,

I found a 400 engine. Now I’m looking for a GPZ550 motor to donate pistons, cylinders and head for the 400.

What engine numbers would be the most powerful GPZ550 engine?

I remember reading somewhere earlier that the 84-85 engine had the best pistons/cams/head but I can’t find that now. 

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Re: Z550 Cylinders, pistons and head on Z400J bottom end?

07 Sep 2023 13:15
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I found that engines starting with ZX550A have the best pistons. Unfortunatly not sold in Sweden. But I found a KZ550D engine that I believe is second best piston and cylinder donor

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