ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

08 Sep 2023 13:51
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135 pounds heavier than a GPZ1000 with only a 10 HP advantage, power to weight ratio only 11% above that of a GPZ750.
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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

08 Sep 2023 15:01
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I agree with TexasKZ.  If you convert to chain on the right side, you can probably avoid having to re-engineer the rear brake setup and leave it where it is.  

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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

08 Sep 2023 17:23 - 08 Sep 2023 17:25
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I agree with TexasKZ.  If you convert to chain on the right side, you can probably avoid having to re-engineer the rear brake setup and leave it where it is.  Scotty
And here lies the biggest challenge which is why there aren't too many chain Drive 1300's out there. Regardless of whether you go left or right you will need a bevel gear set up and jack shaft at the back of the motor. On the 1300 the final drive bevel is part of the cluster inside the main casing and the output shaft doesn't exit the main casings so there is nothing to attach a sprocket to 

 
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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

08 Sep 2023 17:50
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Well that is a bite in the hienie.

On the other hand, the VMax seems to get along just fine with a shaft.
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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

08 Sep 2023 18:26
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Well that is a bite in the hienie.

On the other hand, the VMax seems to get along just fine with a shaft.




So does the ZG 1000 Concours.

 
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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

09 Sep 2023 08:30
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Well that is a bite in the hienie.

On the other hand, the VMax seems to get along just fine with a shaft.




So does the ZG 1000 Concours.


 
Yup. I put quite a few miles on one of those. Super reliable. Lots of good memories.
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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

29 Sep 2023 11:17
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Thanks for all your input I have found USD front suspension that will fit, swingarm and wheels, back tyre just need to find front tyre to match. I have a few ideas about the chain drive its the weight I'm trying to reduce, back end and wheels they are just to heavy. The whole bike is heavy needs to go on a diet.
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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

29 Sep 2023 17:10 - 29 Sep 2023 18:34
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135 pounds heavier than a GPZ1000 with only a 10 HP advantage, power to weight ratio only 11% above that of a GPZ750.

 
I think it was less than 10 hp difference (130 for the ZG1300 vs 124 for the GPZ1000) and once the shaft drive robs 20% of that, the HP to the wheel would be less than a GPZ1000.
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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

29 Sep 2023 23:51
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Thanks for all your input I have found USD front suspension that will fit, swingarm and wheels, back tyre just need to find front tyre to match. I have a few ideas about the chain drive its the weight I'm trying to reduce, back end and wheels they are just to heavy. The whole bike is heavy needs to go on a diet.
Looking forward to seeing ingenuity at work, good luck 

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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

30 Sep 2023 07:38
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Yes I know but you can't beat the sound of a 6 with megaphones going down the road, plus I already have a few ZX750 turbos and a 810 Z650 turbo its just different.

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Re: ZG1300-A1 shaft to chain

03 Oct 2023 05:44
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Anything is possible but I'm in the research and design stage at the moment, Good thing is I have found a good USD front suspension that can be made to fit.
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