Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

14 Apr 2025 07:16
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You might want to try cracking the float bowl drain screws, to verify each float bowl is filling properly.

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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

14 Apr 2025 07:19
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You might want to try cracking the float bowl drain screws, to verify each float bowl is filling properly.
 

When I went back to the stock jets I drained the bowls and all 4 had fuel in them. I can try cracking the screw again to see if it has changed.
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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

14 Apr 2025 07:38
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Are both coils producing a spark ?
Hey Wookie!! I am assuming I am getting spark since sometimes it seems to fire up fine and can tell by the sound when all four are firing, not to mention the down pipes are all hot. I mean I suppose the coil could have an intermittent issue? When it does start up correctly it sounds so good with the 4 in 1 exhaust. As I side note I found that the gas tank is leaking at the fuel level switch.
Try laying the leads for #1 & #2 (one from each coil) on top of the cam cover with a spark plug in them and crank the motor you should see an equal spark on each plug (I appreciate this doesn't guarantee it's sparking in the cylinder under pressure but it's a "quick and dirty" test)

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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

14 Apr 2025 14:50
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Are both coils producing a spark ?
Hey Wookie!! I am assuming I am getting spark since sometimes it seems to fire up fine and can tell by the sound when all four are firing, not to mention the down pipes are all hot. I mean I suppose the coil could have an intermittent issue? When it does start up correctly it sounds so good with the 4 in 1 exhaust. As I side note I found that the gas tank is leaking at the fuel level switch.
Try laying the leads for #1 & #2 (one from each coil) on top of the cam cover with a spark plug in them and crank the motor you should see an equal spark on each plug (I appreciate this doesn't guarantee it's sparking in the cylinder under pressure but it's a "quick and dirty" test)


Pulled plug #1 and #2. I do see a spark on both, but not crazy bright blue or anything. I will say that both plugs seemed really sooted up. They are a new set so I am surprised they are so sooty being the bike hasn't run for any length of time yet. In addition I drained the float bowls and took a pic of how much fuel I got out of all 4. 

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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

14 Apr 2025 16:09
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That looks like plenty of fuel.  
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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

14 Apr 2025 16:10
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What is the voltage at the coils during cranking and when running (check both) plugs will spot if it’s only been running on choke

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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

14 Apr 2025 17:02
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What is the voltage at the coils during cranking and when running (check both) plugs will spot if it’s only been running on choke
Is getting the voltage of the coils (under the tank?) just a matter a putting a multimeter on the two wires on each coil?
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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

16 Apr 2025 11:10
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What is the voltage at the coils during cranking and when running (check both) plugs will spot if it’s only been running on choke

Assuming I did it right I am getting about 11.3v on each coil. At the battery I am at about 12.3v. 
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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

16 Apr 2025 12:58 - 16 Apr 2025 13:01
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What is the voltage at the coils during cranking and when running (check both) plugs will spot if it’s only been running on choke

Assuming I did it right I am getting about 11.3v on each coil. At the battery I am at about 12.3v. 
You should be putting the red meter lead on the coil supply (normally either red or yellow/red) and the black lead on the battery ground - if that's what you did you either need to find where you are losing voltage or fit a by-pass relay (there are several threads on that topic here on the forum)
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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

16 Apr 2025 15:10 - 16 Apr 2025 15:10
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What is the voltage at the coils during cranking and when running (check both) plugs will spot if it’s only been running on choke

Assuming I did it right I am getting about 11.3v on each coil. At the battery I am at about 12.3v. 
You should be putting the red meter lead on the coil supply (normally either red or yellow/red) and the black lead on the battery ground - if that's what you did you either need to find where you are losing voltage or fit a by-pass relay (there are several threads on that topic here on the forum)
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Yup, that's exactly what i did. Used the ground terminal on the battery as well. I would also note that the voltage of the battery also dropped when I switched the key to start. With the key off the battery returned back to its nominal voltage.
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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

16 Apr 2025 19:52
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I would also test the battery under load. With the meter on the battery posts (the actual posts, not the cables or bolts) note the voltage, then turn on the key and press the starter button and note the voltage again while the starter is turning.
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Re: Help with First Restart After Carb Rebuild

17 Apr 2025 00:20
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Yup, that's exactly what i did. Used the ground terminal on the battery as well. I would also note that the voltage of the battery also dropped when I switched the key to start. With the key off the battery returned back to its nominal voltage.
When you say "switched the key to start" do you mean "turned the ignition" on or "cranked the motor" - if cranking the motor the battery voltage will drop to around 10V then bounce back when you stop cranking (this is due to the heavy load drawn by the stater)
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