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19 Mar 2011 14:18 #438944 by wireman
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as long as you dont mind grinding B)

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19 Mar 2011 14:26 #438945 by wireman
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i can still have frame brace kits made if enough people are interested .
i can also supply motor mount kits and oversize bolts just need enough people interested to cover machine shop costs,the more i order the cheaper i can get them made B)

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19 Mar 2011 14:31 - 19 Mar 2011 14:44 #438947 by mark1122
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i like this pic. u dont see this mod enough. i think it would realy help. Ma kawi added some of this type of gusset work to the gpz and kzp's. so it must help.

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76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
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19 Mar 2011 14:43 #438948 by mark1122
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For those guys thinking of big tires.
This is for a big tire mod.
notice that the inner footpeg bosses have been ground off for chain clearance . also the frame rail has been flattened were the chain rides.

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76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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19 Mar 2011 17:50 #438983 by 531blackbanshee
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i'm geaded out to the shop to cut out a gusset kit right now :evil: !

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19 Mar 2011 18:54 #438996 by racer54
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Did you actually just heat it up and flatten the area where the chain runs or did you alter...such as cutting area out and welding in a plate recesses into the frame tube...or...I hear you guys saying this and that but just not sure what you actually did. I will be needing to do this soon so am very curious how different ways are to do this.

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19 Mar 2011 19:01 #438997 by Patton
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Reminds of the BSA Gold Star where the frame tube is sufficiently [strike]dented[/strike] relieved to allow clearance for the exhaust pipe. :lol:

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19 Mar 2011 19:05 #438998 by trianglelaguna
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mark1122 wrote: i like this pic. u dont see this mod enough. i think it would realy help. Ma kawi added some of this type of gusset work to the gpz and kzp's. so it must help.

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glad my track project is a J-model...the frame was made in japan copying from the superbike mods on the z frames and is sufficient to race and in crease power in it's stock form .....

anyone have a link to bracing kits here in the states?

great pics mark and blacky

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19 Mar 2011 19:08 - 19 Mar 2011 19:12 #438999 by trianglelaguna
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this is better imo

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19 Mar 2011 20:32 #439018 by hal0tw0
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going to do this very soon. I dont know why I havent started a build thread yet..... :unsure:

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19 Mar 2011 20:39 - 19 Mar 2011 20:43 #439022 by 531blackbanshee
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broke a starret hole saw :blush: ,dangit man :angry: .
$8.00 blown before the first notch is cut.i was using my joint jigger because i was to lazy to take the rotab off the mill and mount the vice.
there is a huge difference between trying to use the joint jigger with a 1/2 drill or mounting it in the drill press.but i didn't want to do that either because if you got a mill the drill press don't get used as much :ohmy: ,for some reason :laugh: .i had taken a small block of aluminum and bored a hole through it and split it open to use to clamp tubes in my mill vise and then notch em :cheer: .that is the way to go,quick setup effective :whistle: .

racer54,mark heated his up and smashed it in using a c-clamp.it looks like in the pics we have in this post that they notched it and welded it back up.my prefference would be to notch and fit a nice channel in and weld it all back up.i have the means to do the welding so that makes me want to do it that way.if i didn't have the means i wouldn't hesitate to use marks method of heating and clamping.hth.

i did get the two tubes for the trianglelagunization ( :silly:)of the three upper back bone tubes done tho.i was pleased with those.all the cleanupdickinoffsetup time is a killer tho,i need more space.

tri the later model frames are def beefed in the needed areas.my 80 z1r has these tubes that are the same id as the od of the front downtubes,they then split the tube lengthwise and overlaid the front down tubes from right below where the lower tubes of the backbone go around the down tubes down to right above the front motor mounts.they then welded them up the seems in front and back.i have never seen them on another frame and have no other noticeable extra gussets.this is the best handling kz i have ever rode,but it stands to reason that by 80 they knew what to do better. B)
they are hard to get a good picture that shows them i will one day but it might have to wait until the header comes back off.cause it kinda hides the end of the overlay.neet trick tho that could be added to older chassis.

ok back to the shop i will get some crappy pics cause i broke the good camera.


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1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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19 Mar 2011 20:51 #439026 by les holt
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Is this what your talking about leon? This is an 80 Z1R frame

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