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21 Jan 2022 05:33 - 21 Jan 2022 08:23 #860814 by zed1015
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750R1, nice article. Thanks for finding that. 
Hey mate, no worries.   I'm still trying to work out what Samantha is talking about, she's rather cryptic..!!
She's after the offset of the rim in relation to the hub for relacing the spokes.
The rim is laced central to the hub (i.e rim center is equidistant to the flanges on the hub where the spoke heads locate.
She's already been given this info by me via PM and others on the UK Z1 site but still keeps asking.
 

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21 Jan 2022 05:46 #860816 by kzstreetfighter71
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Surely all rims will end up centered to where they are supposed to be as long as the correct length of spoke is used and the correct lace pattern? 

 

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21 Jan 2022 07:02 #860821 by DOHC
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Surely all rims will end up centered to where they are supposed to be as long as the correct length of spoke is used and the correct lace pattern? 
 
That's what I was thinking.  If you buy a set of precut spokes, the offset is pretty much set by the spoke length.  There can't be much room for error.

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21 Jan 2022 10:37 #860832 by Samminorwich
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I see I am a bit confusing the offset I am referring to is when spoking the rear wheel to ensure the rim sits in the middle of the bike the same as the front as whilst lacing the wheel you can move the rim from side to side with reference to the bike centre 
I don't know how much more I can say lol

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21 Jan 2022 10:56 #860834 by Wookie58
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I would have thought you are better with the rim centred on the hub to equalise load, you can then centre the wheel with the correct sized spacers as you would with a cast wheel ?
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21 Jan 2022 10:59 #860835 by Mikaw
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I see I am a bit confusing the offset I am referring to is when spoking the rear wheel to ensure the rim sits in the middle of the bike the same as the front as whilst lacing the wheel you can move the rim from side to side with reference to the bike centre 
I don't know how much more I can say lol
As mentioned, the rim will find its neutral position over the hub as long as the spoke lengths are correct. Lace the rim correctly and tighten up each spoke nipple till it just covers the last thread on the spoke. It that point I’d look for a local shop to true the rim, unless you have the patients of Job! I found a custom HD chopper shop that trued my laced rim for $35. Well worth it for piece of mind. 

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21 Jan 2022 11:04 - 21 Jan 2022 11:05 #860836 by kzstreetfighter71
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Samminorwich post=860832I see I am a bit confusing the offset I am referring to is when spoking the rear wheel to ensure the rim sits in the middle of the bike the same as the front as whilst lacing the wheel you can move the rim from side to side with reference to the bike centre 
I don't know how much more I can say lol


You dont need too worry about that Sam there is no offset, if you use the correct spoke sizes and weave pattern the wheel will automatically pull into the centre where it supposed to be, the correct axle spacers will then centre the wheel in to swing arm, if you are going full original then just make sure everything is returned back to factory spec and you will have no problems.


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21 Jan 2022 11:10 - 21 Jan 2022 15:30 #860837 by zed1015
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I see I am a bit confusing the offset I am referring to is when spoking the rear wheel to ensure the rim sits in the middle of the bike the same as the front as whilst lacing the wheel you can move the rim from side to side with reference to the bike centre 
I don't know how much more I can say lol
As i have already advised several times.
The rim on these should be central to the hub to put it in the centerline of the bike.
I don't know what more i can say either as that is the answer you needed.

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21 Jan 2022 11:13 - 21 Jan 2022 11:14 #860838 by SWest
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He makes it look easy. If done correctly the wheel self centers.
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21 Jan 2022 11:28 #860839 by kzstreetfighter71
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I love he's "how too" videos, its like he is narrating to an 8 year old.

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21 Jan 2022 14:07 #860843 by Samminorwich
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Thanks for the advice I don't want to shim up my back wheel as there is no mention of this in the manualHarley shop near me I will ask 

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21 Jan 2022 14:11 #860845 by Samminorwich
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Thanks to everyone on here for your help over in the UK lots of British bike nutters who go on about 1/64 inch rim position offset and ride bikes that my new monkey 125 can blow off lol

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