Chain size 630 vs 530

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07 Aug 2011 21:01 #467567 by andy9802gt
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steell wrote:

wireman wrote: lighter weight,stronger,cheaper more gear combinations...... B)


Looks like four good reasons to me.


Lighter by what? 6oz? Two 3/8" thick 8" dia. pieces of steel weigh the same where I live, 100" of chain are roughly the same weight, 10,000# tensile strength is 10,000# tensile strength, cheaper by what $10?, and a stock rear and +/- 1 on the front seems to work for a lot of people. As far as Otto goes, longer life?, fewer adjustments?, better mileage? All things being equal I fail to see how one would outperform the other in these areas.

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07 Aug 2011 21:18 - 07 Aug 2011 21:27 #467570 by otakar
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The side plates of the chain are much thinner on the modern chains plus the rollers are also a bit smaller. I know for a fact that with everything being even on two bikes the quarter mile time difference is substantial. My buddy drag races a 83 GPz1100 (1500) turbo, and he dropped a whole third second when he went to the 530. you must realize that a couple of oz when spinning turn into pounds of centrifugal mass. Chain mass is a funny thing when it gets to spinning fast. I am giving you results right off of my GPz1150 I ran both on the bike and those are the results. The less HP out of the engine the greater the result difference will be. As I said multiple times before; I was a skeptic also before I switched. It took a couple of pros to convince me. I have no profit in this so do what ever you want. Mount a #60 industrial chain for what I care. It will mount right on your existing setup. I did that years ago when I did not know much. I thought that stronger is better. But it added 1# to the chain mass and took 15mi off of my top end on my Z1R, and added a whole second to the 1/4 mike.

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07 Aug 2011 22:27 #467584 by roy-b-boy-b
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"Plus", you have more teeth in contact with the chain. Roy

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07 Aug 2011 23:23 - 07 Aug 2011 23:25 #467599 by Patton
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Some interesting tidbits from the web:
www.ekchain.com/drag.htm
Drag Racing Chain Applications By Horsepower
530DRZ2 -- up to 500hp
more than 500hp -- 630SHB
www.3guyz.com/index.php?option=com_conte...7:examples&Itemid=94
Generally, if you compare a 530 chain to an equivalent rated 630 chain, you will find that the heavier pins and rollers afforded by the longer pitch will result in a stronger chain construction, and higher tensile strength. In a fixed length of chain, the 630 chain will have fewer pitches, many times resulting in less "set" or "stretch" as the chain wears. The sprockets for a 630 pitch have a matching 3/4" pitch, making the teeth larger, deeper, and stronger at the base of the tooth.
unitedparts.us/rk-streetbike-chains.aspx
532GSV XW-ring Rated up to 1300cc
Applications:
Rated up to 1300cc street applications, this streetbike chain has a maximum tensile strength of 9,200 foot pounds and a wearlife index of 1,000.

630GSV XW-ring Rated up to 1400cc
Applications:
Perfect for police bikes and bikes to up to 1400cc. 630GSV has a maximum tensile strength of 11,300 foot pounds and a wearlife index of 1,000.
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08 Aug 2011 01:33 - 08 Aug 2011 01:57 #467639 by wireman
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andy9802gt wrote:

steell wrote:

wireman wrote: lighter weight,stronger,cheaper more gear combinations...... B)


Looks like four good reasons to me.


Lighter by what? 6oz? Two 3/8" thick 8" dia. pieces of steel weigh the same where I live, 100" of chain are roughly the same weight, 10,000# tensile strength is 10,000# tensile strength, cheaper by what $10?, and a stock rear and +/- 1 on the front seems to work for a lot of people. As far as Otto goes, longer life?, fewer adjustments?, better mileage? All things being equal I fail to see how one would outperform the other in these areas.

the 530 on the back of my 1327 was closer to 12,000psi,that little bit of weight all ads up when youre spinning that back wheel at 100 plus mph. :laugh:i stand corrected,my 530zzz chain was only rated at 11,000 psi! :woohoo:

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08 Aug 2011 08:42 - 08 Aug 2011 08:44 #467663 by Old Man Rock
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Ah for KZ Christs sake...


For all the manufacturers, low end chains (cheaper) won't have the same tensile strengths/specifications as the higher end series they offer... Ek for example, compare their cheapest 530 pitch chains to their ZZZ series, ya they can get expensive over the costs of a 630 chain but definitely strong enough for a KZ...

How many gear change possibilities any of us really going to do ya can't accomplish with a 630... Hmmm... :S

As for colors, WTF ya want pink?... :blink: Can you get a matching pink rear sprocket now days.... :sick:

All in all, if it works for ya and you're not adjusting your chain twice a week :whistle: , awesome use it....

As for weight, again take a good dump... Same effect...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: You guys kill me :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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08 Aug 2011 09:44 #467671 by wireman
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hey dont you have some carb jets to buff out om-grump? :woohoo:

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08 Aug 2011 10:14 - 08 Aug 2011 10:15 #467676 by 650ed
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Old Man Rock wrote: "..As for colors, WTF ya want pink?... :blink: Can you get a matching pink rear sprocket now days..."
Why stop at the sprocket? :laugh:

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08 Aug 2011 10:28 #467678 by otakar
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My chain has to match my socks and my underwear. ;) On some "sporting" rides that might be one color when I start out and at the end winds up being brown. :blush: :whistle: :evil:

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78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
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08 Aug 2011 17:23 #467754 by wireman
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otakar wrote: My chain has to match my socks and my underwear. ;) On some "sporting" rides that might be one color when I start out and at the end winds up being brown. :blush: :whistle: :evil:

:woohoo:

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08 Aug 2011 23:33 #467882 by Old Man Rock
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Here ya go Plumi...
Dupli-Color Pink Diapies for ya..... :whistle: :evil:


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08 Aug 2011 23:39 #467884 by wireman
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Thats the last time i ever go to a slumber party with you/craig! :woohoo:

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