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10 Dec 2011 13:33 - 10 Dec 2011 13:34 #492522 by vintsham72
help steering bearings and races was created by vintsham72
kz1000 '78 A2A
I bought all balls tapered bearings back in april 2011. installed the races but messed up the lower bearing. the roller cage was black and a little taller than the replacement I received which has a different design silver with a lower roller cage. I guess they changed the design but same measurements. my question is do I need to replace the races with this new kit? like I said same all balls part number 22-1014 but a new design.
also I have a kz1000 a2a with original steering ball bearings. I notice with my other bike and new taperd bearings there is a slight difference in height meaning the lower stem and upper tree should compress just a little more
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10 Dec 2011 13:45 #492523 by wireman
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id use the race that comes with the new bearing B)

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10 Dec 2011 14:19 #492525 by Mcdroid
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wireman wrote: id use the race that comes with the new bearing B)


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10 Dec 2011 14:38 #492526 by vintsham72
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any advice on taking out these tapered races? they are in flush

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10 Dec 2011 15:00 - 10 Dec 2011 15:01 #492530 by 650ed
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If there is no edge showing on the inner circumference you won't be able to drive them out with a drift pin. You may need to use a Dremel tool with a cutter or small grinding attachment to cut the race. If you do, take your time so you don't damage the steering stem. Ed

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10 Dec 2011 15:03 #492531 by vintsham72
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is this tottaly necessary. I mean with the new set of bearings and having to take out these races?

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10 Dec 2011 15:17 #492538 by 650ed
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vintsham72 wrote: is this tottaly necessary. I mean with the new set of bearings and having to take out these races?


You may want to contact All Balls about this. When I installed mine I wasn't sure whether they should be torqued to the factory spec since they were a different type of bearing than the original, so I called All Balls to ask. I found them very friendly and helpful (the answer was yes - use original factory torque spec). I believe their toll free number is 888-228-3323; they're in PA. Ed

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10 Dec 2011 15:54 #492543 by Tony

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12 Dec 2011 00:50 #492724 by Kapahulu
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Vintsham,

When you get the answer please update this post for the rest of us KZ1000 owners.

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12 Dec 2011 01:33 #492731 by DiamondSkyBlue1000
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I have the same kit and am about to start this project as well.
Any info and pictures would be greatly appreciated!

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12 Dec 2011 01:58 #492737 by wireman
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vintsham72 wrote: is this tottaly necessary. I mean with the new set of bearings and having to take out these races?

you should only have one race to knock back out,bottem of steering head B)

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20 Dec 2011 04:15 #493906 by werkingman
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im putting 86 zx front on my kz750 and i have no idea as to what bearing change i need you smart fukers gimme a hand ;)

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