Shock Recommendations?
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I'm not really a fan of Progressive shocks though.
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tomnagel wrote: when we have to ride in extreme cold conditions what type of engine oil is best suted for any bike in general?
Welcome to the forum. Start you own thread about engine oil. Just click on forum and scroll down to engine. Roy
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10-40 synthetic. Amsoil is very good.tomnagel wrote: when we have to ride in extreme cold conditions what type of engine oil is best suted for any bike in general?
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A German magazine recently compared several brands for the Honda CB900F and called the Ikon (former Koni) set a winner over Ohlins. I only have the conclusion, so I cannot say if the Ikons won because they cost 1/3 that of the Ohlins or if they actually performed better overall as well. I've had Konis on several bikes and find them pretty good for the price. They, too, lose rebound with time, but are adjustable and also rebuildable.
Cheap Hagons, in my experience, have too much compression and too little rebound damping - not unlike stock suspenders from the 1970s. But the Hagon mono-shock fitted to my Sprint many moons ago was fine.
Then again, people have different preferences. Even at the very top level of racing, racers are likely to require quite different settings.
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faffi wrote: I found the Progressive fork springs too hard for my liking. Also fitted a pair of Progressive shock absorbers on an Intruder 1400 some years ago, and while they proved an improvement over stock, they had too little rebound and after only a few thousand miles had a lot less.
A German magazine recently compared several brands for the Honda CB900F and called the Ikon (former Koni) set a winner over Ohlins. I only have the conclusion, so I cannot say if the Ikons won because they cost 1/3 that of the Ohlins or if they actually performed better overall as well. I've had Konis on several bikes and find them pretty good for the price. They, too, lose rebound with time, but are adjustable and also rebuildable.
Cheap Hagons, in my experience, have too much compression and too little rebound damping - not unlike stock suspenders from the 1970s. But the Hagon mono-shock fitted to my Sprint many moons ago was fine.
Then again, people have different preferences. Even at the very top level of racing, racers are likely to require quite different settings.
Please elaborate! Where, oh where can we buy cheap Hagons? I’m sure we all would like to know! :whistle: :woohoo: In the past I've used S&W shocks and I find the Hagons work at least as well if not better (S&Ws were the hot setup in the day used by Kenny Roberts, Vetter/Rickman, and others on the track). But then I am riding a KZ650, not a 1400 Intruder or Honda CB900F, so maybe that accounts for the difference. Ed
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I have a pair of S&W Street Strokers on my bike now.
I haven't ridin it in twenty years getting her back on the road
Do they crap out over time ?
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650ed wrote: Please elaborate! Where, oh where can we buy cheap Hagons? I’m sure we all would like to know! :whistle: :woohoo:
Your nearest dealer will do Basic Hagons come sans any adjustments and cannot be rebuilt, just like the low line Progressive Suspension items. Hagon also make fully adjustable twin shocks that I reckon will be superior. Considering the difference in function and, IMO, build quality plus having the option of rebuilding them, I find Ikons to be a steal compared to just about any other shock absorber. YSS, which I haven't tried, is also supposed to make excellent shock absorbers at a reasonable price.
Wilbers, however, is in my experience - and that of several others I know of - a waste of money; not much better than stock when new and wear fast. They do cost a lot, though, and their service is reputedly great.
Still, as I've mentioned, people's preference vary. Also, especially budget products will show noticeable differences in production, meaning one shock can behave very differently to another with the same parts number.
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faffi wrote: [quote="650ed" post=495628Please elaborate! Where, oh where can we buy cheap Hagons? I’m sure we all would like to know! :whistle: :woohoo:
Your nearest dealer will do Basic Hagons come sans any adjustments and cannot be rebuilt, just like the low line Progressive Suspension items. Hagon also make fully adjustable twin shocks that I reckon will be superior. Considering the difference in function and, IMO, build quality plus having the option of rebuilding them, I find Ikons to be a steal compared to just about any other shock absorber. YSS, which I haven't tried, is also supposed to make excellent shock absorbers at a reasonable price.
Wilbers, however, is in my experience - and that of several others I know of - a waste of money; not much better than stock when new and wear fast. They do cost a lot, though, and their service is reputedly great.
Still, as I've mentioned, people's preference vary. Also, especially budget products will show noticeable differences in production, meaning one shock can behave very differently to another with the same parts number.[/quote]
I believe you are totally wrong, and I cannot imagine where you come up with such a statement. How about showing me which Hagon shocks are non-adjustable and I will eat crow, othwise I say BS. Here's the link - now show me.....
davequinnmotorcycles.com/cgi-bin/webc.cg...GON_TWIN_SHOCKS.html
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