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25 Jul 2012 16:56 - 25 Jul 2012 20:51 #538576 by Patton
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Barrel reservoir master cylinder was 14mm bore with single disc 1973 Z1 through 1977 KZ1000-A1, and enlarged to 5/8" bore for dual discs on the 1976 KZ900-B1 LTD.

1978 KZ1000-A2 introduced trapezoid reservoir with single disc, and was the only year for this smaller bore trapezoid master cylinder (piston assembly part no. 43020-1002).

Trapezoid was continued in later years with larger bore m/c for the dual discs.

Master cylinder bore size is often marked on the underside as 14mm or 5/8"

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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25 Jul 2012 16:59 #538579 by mark1122
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i did look on the underside and did not see anything that i thought was size related, but i will have a closer look.

Thanks Patton.

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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25 Jul 2012 17:27 #538587 by 650ed
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Here's how the underside of the '77 KZ650-C1 MC (round MC) is marked:

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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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25 Jul 2012 17:54 #538597 by mark1122
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i'll have a look when i get home tomorrow.
now if i see that on the bottom off mine, i'm going to feel like a dummy.
Thanks ED
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76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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26 Jul 2012 23:19 #538895 by mark1122
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Nope. no size stamped on the bottom of mine.

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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29 Jul 2012 22:04 #539474 by z1kzonly
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Hi Mark, You should have bought this one.
It is the last one I had, It only sold for $49.00.
(No shill Bidding here! I'm honest, Not like "OINK")
cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110919277166
I paid $45.00 plus shipping for the Kawasaki factory rebuild kit from Jeff Saunders @ Z1 Ent.
I gave my machinist friend $100 to bore 4 of these. $25 each?
The core master cyl., worth $25 all day long on ebay.
Labor and time to take apart and clean and glass bead, $25.
Ebay fees and paypal fees. ??
Man, "IT COST ME $50" to sell this master cylinder to someone else!
Go figure ebay?????
Why do I do it?

Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!

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30 Jul 2012 22:17 #539632 by Mercury Kid
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If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting the calipers from? I'd very much like to get a set, if I could afford them. I've only ever seen them on customs from the motherland though. All I know of over here are the Grimeca copies that have smaller pistons, and supposedly aren't as good.

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Z1 70's period longbike

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30 Jul 2012 23:33 #539644 by VenturaRider
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Maybe a stupid question but will any dual disc splitter work on a early 75 Z1?

Box stock 75 Z1900
74 Z1900
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30 Jul 2012 23:42 - 31 Jul 2012 18:38 #539645 by mark1122
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VenturaRider wrote: Maybe a stupid question but will any dual disc splitter work on a early 75 Z1?


yes any will work, but the later models have dual outlets.

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
01 CBR600F4i Track bike.
Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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31 Jul 2012 01:06 - 31 Jul 2012 01:06 #539665 by mtbspeedfreak
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Mercury Kid wrote: If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting the calipers from? I'd very much like to get a set, if I could afford them. I've only ever seen them on customs from the motherland though. All I know of over here are the Grimeca copies that have smaller pistons, and supposedly aren't as good.


I believe there's one US distributor for AP Racing motorcycle calipers, GP Tech, LLC: www.gptechllc.com/ . However there are a few friendly KZRs on the otherside of the pond who've volunteered to ship some things over. I think it was something like $100 cheaper to do it that way than buy it through GP Tech.

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1976 KZ 900- Daily Driver
1980 LTD 550- Dalton Highway survivor!

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31 Jul 2012 01:16 #539666 by DiamondSkyBlue1000
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Web!ke
They've got several caliper/disc combos and all the other pieces too if you got money to burn...

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31 Jul 2012 14:40 #539759 by mtbspeedfreak
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DiamondSkyBlue1000 wrote: Web!ke
They've got several caliper/disc combos and all the other pieces too if you got money to burn...


Haha if you don't have money to burn, you can put together the same things for half of what PMC is asking. Those are PMC kits, Z1E can get them, but as you can see, they are NOT cheap.

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