Chain Side Plate Removal?

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10 Feb 2015 19:16 #661195 by kzdcw
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Trying to replace my chain on my 77' KZ1000A that I have been working on for a while. The chain is a C-clip style Master Link . The C-clip came off easy but can't seem to pry off the side plate? I have the drive chain adjusted forward with the most slack I can get. The chain is a little short but still have about an inch of play. Any ideas how to get the side plate off or master link out? I tried to get a small screw driver behind side plate and walk it off but unable too. Also tried to grab side plate with pliers and wiggle it off, not working or even moving the plate? Any tips will be greatly appreciated as always !!!

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10 Feb 2015 19:38 #661204 by SWest
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The master links are simi pressed in now days. Good idea but a pain in the ass to put on or off. You can try prying it off while it is on the rear sprocket. If you want to replace it you can grind it off. A chain breaker is better if you can get one. What size chain is it? 630? They can be hard to get.
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10 Feb 2015 19:48 - 10 Feb 2015 19:50 #661207 by kzdcw
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It's a 630 chain. How would a chain breaker work to remove the link or side plate? The end of the pins of the master link are not rolled to prevent the side plate from removing. It just doesn't seem to want to budge?

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10 Feb 2015 19:52 - 10 Feb 2015 20:19 #661208 by JR
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I know exactly what you mean
I have had the same problem and used an old style chain breaker to press out the pins on either end of the link

[strike]My suggestion would be to modify a C clamp by sticking a small socket on the fixed end and pull the circular thingy off the end of the threaded part leaving the ball exposed.
Place the fixed end with the socket behind the chain - open end of the socket around the pin -and screw the ball end of the threaded part down on the pin facing you. This should push the pin back and out. Do a bit on one pin and then the other.
Difficult to describe. If necessary I can rig something up and take a pic
I used a C clamp like this in revers to get a master link and plate on instead of off by placing the socket on the threaded end
Good luck[/strike]

Edit -wont work

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Last edit: 10 Feb 2015 20:19 by JR. Reason: see my post below

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10 Feb 2015 20:01 #661209 by kzdcw
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If your able to take a Picture JR that would be appreciated. I'm trying to get a visual of this but having a little difficulty.

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10 Feb 2015 20:04 #661210 by StreetfighterKz
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If it's not an o-ring chain, you could try and use a larger flat-head screwdriver as a wedge. Keep the chain on the rear sprocket and tap the end of the screwdriver to pop off the link.

That's what I do when taking off old chains.

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10 Feb 2015 20:18 #661212 by JR
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kzdcw wrote: If your able to take a Picture JR that would be appreciated. I'm trying to get a visual of this but having a little difficulty.


My apologies. kzdcw
When I laid it out with an old master link I found my suggestion wont work as the pins are fixed to the backing plate.
Sorry again
Dougs suggestion is better

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10 Feb 2015 20:20 #661213 by kzdcw
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Doug, The Side plate with the removable master link says RS60 with an F under it . The chain links side plates say 630 with an OR under it. So is it an O-ring chain? The removable master link has 2 pins permanently attached to it which is the inside plate. The side plate of the side facing out is the plate that is removable, so I don't think that JR's method of the C-clamp would work?

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10 Feb 2015 20:23 #661214 by kzdcw
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Thanks JR for trying though. Looks like we were trying to post about the same time.

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10 Feb 2015 20:26 #661215 by RonKZ650
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It's probably oring, but not hard to tell. Oring chains are quite a bit wider than non orings, as the orings are there to seal and easily seen by eye. Easiest way to replace a chain is use bolt cutter and cut the chain. No use being gentle to that worn out chain.

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10 Feb 2015 20:29 #661216 by kzdcw
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You might be right Ron. Didn't have any bolt cutters and thought the side plate and master link would be relatively easy to remove?

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10 Feb 2015 21:06 #661218 by SWest
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I've done some brutal things to a chain in my terrible twenties. If it's worn out, take a large flat screw driver and use it as a chisel with a hammer to pry it off. It will come off. You might destroy the driver doing it but so what?
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