frame dimensions

Does anyone know the difference in widths between the kz750e and the 900/1000?

thanks

monkeydoodle wrote: Does anyone know the difference in widths between the kz750e and the 900/1000?

thanks

Widths of what ?? Max.. bar end to bar end? Engine, engine mounts? Turns signals?

width of what is in the title...FRAME DIMENSIONS!

I see... you join last week and already yelling at me....

Monkeydoodle,
You need to be more specific. There be a lot of dimensions on a frame . A lot of widths and a lot of 750/900,1000 frames. Even if you take just one of them,say the 750. You have many variations (I have no idea how many) all with differences , some slight some major. Depending on the year, some models may just have a cosmetic upgrade.some will have a major overhaul with a different engine .
If you have a KZ750e, (19??) you already have all those dimensions to hand. So which dimensions are you interested in and why. If you explain a bit, others ( with 900/1000s) will know what youre looking for and may be inclined to help out by going out to thier shed with a dingle and measuring bits of their bikes.
It would be nice if someone had a list of all the dimensions of all the years of all the models of all the KZs ever produced.But they dont.
Someone posted this on the Z1OC site recently, An interesting read and gives some idea of how big and complex the Z/ KZ stable is.
www.z-power.co.uk/merchantmanager/view_information.php?pId=22
I know from an earlier post that youre looking to swap your swingarm. Here are the measurements from my project;

KZ1000CSR(1981)
Inside from face to face of pivot sticky out bit on frame; 23.7mm


GSXR600(????)
Outside width of swingarm(including dust seals);23.3mm


If you need any other measurements,let me know what and ill have a look. Hope this helps.

cheers Davido - I think from our previous chats you hit the nail on the head with the specific measurements I need. Thanks for offering it is much appreciated. Looking at a complete ZX6R rear end a little later so want to make sure that there won't be as much machining needed on the 6 as opposed to my 7R?

By the way sent you a PM

Yes,I got your pm.Did you get my reply? I was just thinking,something to try (for the back end). You have the frame and the measurement
that you need to fit the swing arm into. Take that and find some breakers yards in your area. There must be some close by you in the Midlands. Its England ! You have bike breakers everywhere. Check out 'Classic Motorcycle Mechanics' or ' Practical Sportsbike' magazines for addresses. (if youve got a bike project on the go,you should be reading these mags anyway.Theyre packed with useful stuff).

If you find a swingarm that fits in the frame ,you still have to think of shock travel (as I mentioned somewhere before) and also chain run. A wider wheel is going to mean an offset front sprocket to keep your chain aligned,but you must also consider clearance twixt the plane of the tyre and the inside of the frame downtube. Some people will go for a fat ass back tyre,say 180 or more and either have the wheel run off center (which sounds totally crazy to me) or scallop a bit out of the frame downtube (which is more work/hours/labour/money)
I struggled with this and went for a 160 tyre and milled a few mm off the sprocket carrier.So,Im pretty sure Im ok with a straight chain run with a few mm clearance either side.
Another thing will be shock mounts. Are you going to keep the twin shock setup? Youll need to have mounts welded on the arm for this. Are you going to go mono? youll need a mount and bracing welded into your frame.
Also, pivot bolt diameter may be something to look at. My gixer swingarm came with a huge pivot bolt . I had bushes made up to accept the Z1000 bolt.
Maybe you know all this already,in which case apologies ( ive had a couple) and anyone else,feel free to chip in.What have I forgotten to mention? what have I got wrong??

Ill get my coat now!

Hey Davido, just back from picking up the 98 ZX6R, measures it and it is almost crack on to what I need. Still unsure on whether to keep the single shock or twin shock set up? I have access to a machine shop that is owned by a good friend of mine, he has all the equipment needed, and he has helped me with the past few builds I have done.

Regarding the front sprocket and alignment, I know of a place that makes sprockets to your dimensions and the last one that we bought for a project was £35 plus post..

Just need to get the pivot bolt out as it seems to be more than cosy in there.

ps...will check my PM's now.

nope no PM's buddy??

davido wrote: Monkeydoodle,
You need to be more specific. There be a lot of dimensions on a frame . A lot of widths and a lot of 750/900,1000 frames. Even if you take just one of them,say the 750. You have many variations (I have no idea how many) all with differences , some slight some major. Depending on the year, some models may just have a cosmetic upgrade.some will have a major overhaul with a different engine .
If you have a KZ750e, (19??) you already have all those dimensions to hand. So which dimensions are you interested in and why. If you explain a bit, others ( with 900/1000s) will know what youre looking for and may be inclined to help out by going out to thier shed with a dingle and measuring bits of their bikes.
It would be nice if someone had a list of all the dimensions of all the years of all the models of all the KZs ever produced.But they dont.
Someone posted this on the Z1OC site recently, An interesting read and gives some idea of how big and complex the Z/ KZ stable is.
www.z-power.co.uk/merchantmanager/view_information.php?pId=22
I know from an earlier post that youre looking to swap your swingarm. Here are the measurements from my project;

KZ1000CSR(1981)
Inside from face to face of pivot sticky out bit on frame; 23.7mm

GSXR600(????)
Outside width of swingarm(including dust seals);23.3mm

If you need any other measurements,let me know what and ill have a look. Hope this helps.

Hi, I'm considering the same swing arm for my gpz1100 B1 project, I'm using 18" gsxr wheels, and need to know the length from the inside back to see if the 18 wheel and tire would fit. Can you measure that please?

Thanks
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