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21 Jul 2015 18:54 #682093
by nickleo373
1981 KZ550C LTD
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Hey everyone. I was planning to sell my KZ550, however now that I am in the process of rebuilding the engine I'm thinking I might keep it as a second bike. One of the major downfalls of the bike is that most of its braking seems to be engine braking. My master cylinder has seized and stripped screws so I see no option other than to replace it. I would like to keep the same caliper and install a new braided brake line, rotor, and pads. Has anyone installed steel lines? Do they actually increase the performance of the brake?
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21 Jul 2015 18:59 #682096
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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Rather than replace the rotor (if it's in rough shape) you may want to consider having it resurfaced. These folks do it right for $45. Ed
www.truedisk.net
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21 Jul 2015 20:30 #682105
by Irish Yobbo
1981 KZ750 LTD
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New brake lines and hoses will not improve your braking unless there was something wrong with the old ones. Having said this, they're cheap, and hoses especially should be replaced - if there's nothing wrong now, there could be very soon. I've found that hoses tend to fasil when you change something - take it off and put it back on, flush them etc, that's when they tend to fail. Braided hoses perform no better than regular hoses, but the steel mesh can prevent them from getting damaged, and can 'hold in' swelling. Personally, I've never seen external swelling, only internal (where the hose closes up and makes it hard to pass fluid).
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22 Jul 2015 05:12 #682131
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build
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Refreshing your brake system is always a good idea.The hoses youve got (if original) are 30 plus years old,so replacing them is of course going to improve your brakes.There are lots of different aftermarket options HEL comes to mind and Goodridge .
www.helperformance.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/z550/
goodridge.brakes-hoses-fittings.co.uk/mo...awasaki-400-600.html
NOS Kawasaki items are also an idea ( though probably more expensive).
I dont think braided ones are going to make any significant difference in performance from other modern non braided ones (but they should make a big differnce from 30year old OE.)
If your disks(rotors) arent damaged or worn beyond the limit, you should be able to get away with a good clean. New seals all round in your calipers is also worth doing. Check the pistons in the calipers for pitting in the chrome.You can clean and polish them up as a temporory fix but you risk buggering the new seals. If theyre too far gone,you should look for new pistons (I like to go for stainless steel pistons as theyll last a lifetime).
Overhauling your brake system is not cheap but having good brakes that you can depend on,is quite nice.
Good luck
P.S. Ive been hearing good things about this company.
www.isrbrakes.se/
www.helperformance.com/motorcycle/kawasaki/z550/
goodridge.brakes-hoses-fittings.co.uk/mo...awasaki-400-600.html
NOS Kawasaki items are also an idea ( though probably more expensive).
I dont think braided ones are going to make any significant difference in performance from other modern non braided ones (but they should make a big differnce from 30year old OE.)
If your disks(rotors) arent damaged or worn beyond the limit, you should be able to get away with a good clean. New seals all round in your calipers is also worth doing. Check the pistons in the calipers for pitting in the chrome.You can clean and polish them up as a temporory fix but you risk buggering the new seals. If theyre too far gone,you should look for new pistons (I like to go for stainless steel pistons as theyll last a lifetime).
Overhauling your brake system is not cheap but having good brakes that you can depend on,is quite nice.
Good luck
P.S. Ive been hearing good things about this company.
www.isrbrakes.se/
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/594313-csr1000-project-build
CB550 (1978)
CB500/4 (1972)*
KZ1000CSR (1981)
XT 600E (1999)
TDM900 (2003)
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22 Jul 2015 06:05 #682135
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Steel lines will make the brakes feel a little more firm. The rubber lines expand ever so slightly.
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22 Jul 2015 06:52 #682146
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1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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+1 Braided lines give a firmer lever pressure in my experience. Old lines you can actually feel them swell, also 30 years later they are fit for the bin really.
I'd be cautious about NOS lines; some rubber and plastic items can deteriorate over time even when left on the shelf.
I always wondered why car manufacturers continue to use steel brake lines when copper is so much better, some bullshit type approval regulations I think.
I'd be cautious about NOS lines; some rubber and plastic items can deteriorate over time even when left on the shelf.
I always wondered why car manufacturers continue to use steel brake lines when copper is so much better, some bullshit type approval regulations I think.
1980 Gpz550 D1, 1981 GPz550 D1. 1982 GPz750R1. 1983 z1000R R2. all four aces
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22 Jul 2015 08:17 #682158
by 80B4
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1978 B3 750
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+1 on the braded brake lines. The OEM rubber lines were never that good, even when they were new. I've had good luck with EBC organic pads on most of my older bikes. The HH pads are high metal content and are hard on the rotor. I also use KLR650 mastercylinders on my single rotor front brake bikes. Late model mastercylinders can be found on ebay at great prices. I do not trust the no-name mastercylinders from china. They are poorly made and there are no replacement parts to buy.
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