new here. - FRONT END SWAP. - XS400 TO KZ650

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01 Nov 2015 16:14 #696795 by itseasytohateme
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New to the forum, about a few months ago I got a 78 KZ650 dropped off, it was laying in the weeds for a decade or so.
We got it started last week, so now the tear down and build up . probably gonna chop it.
I got a friend with a front end of a XS400 but what I need to know, Does anyone know where I can find information to see if the front end from a xs400 will fit on a z650?
thanks for any info.
-Ian

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01 Nov 2015 16:38 - 01 Nov 2015 16:40 #696800 by 650ed
XS400 forks on a KZ650? :blink:

Egads! That's a pretty darn flimsy set of forks for a KZ650. I wouldn't do that swap.

Keep in mind that those forks were engineered for a bike weighing 100 pounds less than the KZ650 and a bike with 38 hp instead of the KZ650's 64 hp! What are you trying to accomplish? Ed

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01 Nov 2015 16:39 #696801 by itseasytohateme
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frankenstein bike.
ratty and ugly.

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01 Nov 2015 16:41 #696803 by 650ed
and deadly to the rider. I added to my original comment; please take another look at it. Ed

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01 Nov 2015 16:46 #696804 by itseasytohateme
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thanks! - I will keep looking. need forks.

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01 Nov 2015 16:48 - 01 Nov 2015 16:49 #696805 by itseasytohateme
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Ed - by chance out of curiosity do you know if the diameter on the sx400 forks is the same as the kz?
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01 Nov 2015 17:01 #696809 by 650ed
They are definitely smaller diameter than the KZ650. I believe they are 33mm vs the KZ650 36mm. You may want to check with the folks at the link below. Ed

www.xs400.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4712

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01 Nov 2015 17:03 #696810 by itseasytohateme
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thank you so much!

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01 Nov 2015 17:49 #696816 by SWest
Spend $150 and put in new fork tubes, seals and dust covers. Chop it? Lost me. :dry:
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02 Nov 2015 03:18 #696853 by martin_csr
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The Ohio Cafe Racers site has a fork tube conversion chart, so you can check to see what models have the same sized forks.
Also, All-Balls-Racing has various sizing charts.

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02 Nov 2015 05:09 - 02 Nov 2015 05:10 #696872 by kaw-a-holic
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I'm a little confused. What is wrong with the stock forks? Are they bent? If not why wouldn't you just rebuild them? If your going to chop it up you might as well put a bit more modern forks on it, not down grade to something like XS400. Not hating on you, just trying to get more info out of you so you can get more help. Keep in mind, quite a few guys will not offer help if you chop that bike. I usually recommend not doing anything that can not be reversed. I wish I would have had someone tell me that. I threw away parts other guys could have used but that was before I found this site. It would also be good to know your mechanical abilities. Is machining a new triple tree to advanced? Do you need to keep it to just bolt on items? That type of info. Did the bike come with tank, panels and/or tail?

Welcome and good luck with the build.

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02 Nov 2015 15:30 #696933 by itseasytohateme
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thanks! - the top cap on the forks was open and got filled with rain water then layed flat in the mud for a few years. I was told I need to replace them, then a friend said he had the xs400 set and to see if it would fit, so that's why I was asking, I have never built a bike, I have ridden for decades but never built - so it's youtube and manuals and here. Another friend suggested I get on here and start digging, so here I am - I know nothing about building for sure. so lots of questions. Oh and I have very limited funds so it is going to be challenging, plus I really like the ratty look of the choppers and bobbers, I was going to try and sell off all of the stock parts that are worth anything to help finance the build, I totally get it that some people don't like when bikes get chopped and customized. but whatever. - I'm gonna build a runner one way or another.

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