Tach has a slow response

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09 Nov 2015 15:12 #697983 by TomasDouglas
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I am at the final stage of rebuilding my 1980 KZ550 and finally got it started and running on all 4 cylinders, it has not run in about 12 years. However when I rev the motor the tach is very slow to increase, it eventually does go up and It is also slow to decrease. The gauges were in good shape and all I did was clean the rust off them and re-paint them, the cable is new and I dripped oil into it when I installed it. I am wondering if the tach needs to be oiled or greased or sprayed with WD40. I would appreciate any advice or suggestions.
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09 Nov 2015 15:31 #697985 by SWest
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Be careful spraying anything in there. If you do make sure you don't do it up side down. It will get all over the glass.
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09 Nov 2015 15:35 #697987 by 650ed
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You should lube the cable, not the gauge. Motor oil works well for the cable. Ed

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10 Nov 2015 06:53 #698050 by MDZ1rider
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The tach has a liquid filled drive. Fluid loss symptoms typically start as a a bouncing unstable needle. I guess it could also cause a slow response. The drive is sealed and can't be refilled. As far as I know, replacement is the only option.
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10 Nov 2015 11:22 #698080 by missionkz
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Really?
When did these become liquid filled or used a liquid drive and which instruments are built this way?

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10 Nov 2015 11:31 #698081 by JR
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missionkz wrote: Really?
When did these become liquid filled or used a liquid drive and which instruments are built this way?


The little cylinder between the bell and the needle is a damper with oil in it. When the oil is lost the works are toast.

See www.zresto.com/page2.php and scroll down to the final paragraph and pic.
If you get all the cobwebs dust and any crud out and the cable is lubed and the problem persists then this is likely the culprit. I have a jumpy mechanical tach and can only look for replacement or one I can cannibalise. Until then I live with it

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10 Nov 2015 12:14 - 10 Nov 2015 12:15 #698084 by missionkz
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Anyone know what kind of oil is in that little cylinder?
Why couldn't it be drilled with a tiny drill and use a hypodermic needle to fill it back up?

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10 Nov 2015 12:55 #698092 by SWest
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While I know some are filled with oil, the ones I've worked on aren't. They are a weight. They don't spin. The problem I was having is the bearing at the bottom of the needle shaft. I have all but given up on them but in time I will go back into them. Meanwhile I spent $250 + shipping to have something that is plug and play. B)
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10 Nov 2015 12:56 #698096 by SWest
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missionkz wrote: Really?
When did these become liquid filled or used a liquid drive and which instruments are built this way?


Bruce, delete this one?
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