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09 Dec 2015 13:04 #702555
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1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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" What would the advantage be for the direct bolt sprocket to hub?"
Except for the elimination of the very slight (unnoticeable) slack when pulling away from a dead stop I can think of no advantage of eliminating the cush drive.
However - the DISadvantage is that there will be more stress on the engine/transmission components when going from neutral to first gear. That little bit of "clunk" the first time (maybe more than once) when you click the cold tranny/clutch in gear when going riding can put stress on parts, but the cush drive tends to soften the impact somewhat since it has a bit of "give". I haven't read of that clunk damaging a KZ engine / tranny, but on my old BSA that had no cush it ended up literally breaking the engine case into two pieces. That made for a very bad night and a number of long days to follow. Ed
Except for the elimination of the very slight (unnoticeable) slack when pulling away from a dead stop I can think of no advantage of eliminating the cush drive.
However - the DISadvantage is that there will be more stress on the engine/transmission components when going from neutral to first gear. That little bit of "clunk" the first time (maybe more than once) when you click the cold tranny/clutch in gear when going riding can put stress on parts, but the cush drive tends to soften the impact somewhat since it has a bit of "give". I haven't read of that clunk damaging a KZ engine / tranny, but on my old BSA that had no cush it ended up literally breaking the engine case into two pieces. That made for a very bad night and a number of long days to follow. Ed
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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09 Dec 2015 17:15 #702584
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1978 Z1R
1978 B3 750
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Those wheels are rare and collectable. The rear is lighter than a Kawasaki wheel.
There may be additional stress on the transmission parts but any problems may take years and tens of thousands of miles to develop.
If you keep the chain tension adjusted correctly and you keep it lubed you should be fine.
There may be additional stress on the transmission parts but any problems may take years and tens of thousands of miles to develop.
If you keep the chain tension adjusted correctly and you keep it lubed you should be fine.
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1978 B3 750
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09 Dec 2015 17:27 #702585
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Long time shade tree wrencher
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03 B12S
09 KLR650
86 FJ1200
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I thought it was worth fixing even if I plan on going to the KZ1000 LTD rear wheel. I have never seen a street bike with a non cush rear wheel before.
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10 Dec 2015 08:37 #702623
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1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!
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An identification mark of a Morris Mag is an M with a circle around the M stamped on either side of the air valve, I have them on my 76 LTD 900, which I believe was the only year & model that came with Morris wheels stock, in stead if the Enkie's or Kawasaki mags
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1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!
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10 Dec 2015 12:57 #702645
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Thanks for clearing that up, Found the marks today both front and back on this bike has the "M" by the valve stem. I think I will keep the front, add another disk and caliper. For the rear I really think I will go with a wheel that has a cush in it.
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10 Dec 2015 13:10 #702648
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Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!
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EBay will be your friend, if you want to get rid of the Morris Mag Wheel. Just Sayin' As long as you have no love affair with any of the forum members. To offer them up to them 1st.
Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!
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10 Dec 2015 14:36 #702659
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1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!
Replied by pete greek1 on topic 750 Twin B3 Wheels upgrade
You never let me know if you have a 16 inch rear, because I have a 16 inch rear drum brake Henry Abe mag that you might be interested in
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1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!
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11 Dec 2015 03:16 #702683
by Timbox
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KZ750 B3 (current Project)
03 B12S
09 KLR650
86 FJ1200
ZX14 (sold)
ZRX1200R (sold) Best bike I have ever owned, need another one
Replied by Timbox on topic 750 Twin B3 Wheels upgrade
Yes I have a 16 rear wheel but I want to stay with a disk brake. Thanks
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KZ750 B3 (current Project)
03 B12S
09 KLR650
86 FJ1200
ZX14 (sold)
ZRX1200R (sold) Best bike I have ever owned, need another one
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12 Dec 2015 11:53 #702860
by Timbox
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03 B12S
09 KLR650
86 FJ1200
ZX14 (sold)
ZRX1200R (sold) Best bike I have ever owned, need another one
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Here is the pic from the rear wheel.
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