- Posts: 5
- Thank you received: 0
Lowering
- OutlawShank
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
Less
More
07 Nov 2016 08:12 #747485
by OutlawShank
1979 KZ650
Woodstock, GA
Lowering was created by OutlawShank
Hey guys,
So I recently bought a 1979 KZ650, which is my first KZ. So far I really like the bike, I'm working on bobbing it. I've never had to lower a bike before but the one thing I can't stand about this bike is how high it sits. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas how to slam this thing. I'm not sure what shocks or forks would be interchangeable, or if I'd even need new ones.
If anyone has experience slamming one of these bad boys, please let me know, I'd really appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance.
So I recently bought a 1979 KZ650, which is my first KZ. So far I really like the bike, I'm working on bobbing it. I've never had to lower a bike before but the one thing I can't stand about this bike is how high it sits. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas how to slam this thing. I'm not sure what shocks or forks would be interchangeable, or if I'd even need new ones.
If anyone has experience slamming one of these bad boys, please let me know, I'd really appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance.
1979 KZ650
Woodstock, GA
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kidkawie
- Offline
- User
- I bleed premix
Less
More
- Posts: 1919
- Thank you received: 245
07 Nov 2016 09:36 - 07 Nov 2016 09:39 #747493
by Kidkawie
1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Replied by Kidkawie on topic Lowering
Forks just need a spacer (limiter they're called) below the top-out spring. This brings the upper tube down into the lower tube. If you leave the main fork spring alone you will preload it. It doesn't make the fork stiffer as the spring rate has not changed, but it will ride higher in the stroke. You can remove the same length of main spring as your limiter but that will slightly increase spring rate.
If you want to do it right, lower both front and rear the same to keep the stock geometry. Otherwise you may encounter some weird handling issues.
If your foks have a preload spacer like the photo, you can just place that below the top-out spring.
If you want to do it right, lower both front and rear the same to keep the stock geometry. Otherwise you may encounter some weird handling issues.
If your foks have a preload spacer like the photo, you can just place that below the top-out spring.
1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Last edit: 07 Nov 2016 09:39 by Kidkawie.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- OutlawShank
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 5
- Thank you received: 0
07 Nov 2016 12:46 #747501
by OutlawShank
1979 KZ650
Woodstock, GA
Replied by OutlawShank on topic Lowering
Thanks, how do you suggest lowering the rear?
1979 KZ650
Woodstock, GA
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- martin_csr
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 8068
- Thank you received: 1656
07 Nov 2016 13:17 - 07 Nov 2016 13:44 #747503
by martin_csr
Replied by martin_csr on topic Lowering
You might be able to install Harley Sportster lowering shocks. eebbaayy search = Sportster shocks 12.5" or 11" or etc.
Measure yours first with the bike on the center stand. The stock Sportys are about the same eye-to-eye length as the KZ650 shocks (around 13.5") & I think the lowering shocks come in a few sizes shorter than that. some of them are called Huggers. some HD shocks have shrouds on the lower end that will probably interfere with the chain guard. I don't know if the shrouds are removable.
Fitment. you'll have to swap the bushings. use a c-clamp & socket. no big deal. the chain guard may rub the Sportster shocks, also maybe not a big deal, especially if yours is plastic. Also, when you install lower shocks, the tire may rub the fender or something.
Measure yours first with the bike on the center stand. The stock Sportys are about the same eye-to-eye length as the KZ650 shocks (around 13.5") & I think the lowering shocks come in a few sizes shorter than that. some of them are called Huggers. some HD shocks have shrouds on the lower end that will probably interfere with the chain guard. I don't know if the shrouds are removable.
Fitment. you'll have to swap the bushings. use a c-clamp & socket. no big deal. the chain guard may rub the Sportster shocks, also maybe not a big deal, especially if yours is plastic. Also, when you install lower shocks, the tire may rub the fender or something.
Last edit: 07 Nov 2016 13:44 by martin_csr.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- RonKZ650
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 3704
- Thank you received: 241
07 Nov 2016 20:20 #747532
by RonKZ650
321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
Replied by RonKZ650 on topic Lowering
If it still has a stock seat or a stepped seat like a LTD style, the easiest way to lower is just cut like 6" of padding off the seat. Right away you are lowered 6". Bobbing is easy as well, cut the back off, remove the rest of the useless ugly stock fenders ect. Mounting a license plate is either way up under the tire where it can't be seen, or optional turn 90 degrees and mount on either side. For sure get rid of blinkers as they are no good. Several aftermarket blinkers in 1/2" diameter or so are available.
321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kidkawie
- Offline
- User
- I bleed premix
Less
More
- Posts: 1919
- Thank you received: 245
08 Nov 2016 04:51 #747543
by Kidkawie
Shorter shocks is the easiest route. You should remove the shock springs (Google shock spring removal zip tie), install the shocks and actuate the swingarm to look for any contact with the fender/chain, etc. If the tire hits the fender you need to install a longer shock bumper or shorten the shaft.
1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Replied by Kidkawie on topic Lowering
OutlawShank wrote: Thanks, how do you suggest lowering the rear?
Shorter shocks is the easiest route. You should remove the shock springs (Google shock spring removal zip tie), install the shocks and actuate the swingarm to look for any contact with the fender/chain, etc. If the tire hits the fender you need to install a longer shock bumper or shorten the shaft.
1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Kidkawie
- Offline
- User
- I bleed premix
Less
More
- Posts: 1919
- Thank you received: 245
08 Nov 2016 04:54 #747544
by Kidkawie
1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Replied by Kidkawie on topic Lowering
Also, moving the shock up/down the swingarm by repositioning the shock mounts has an effect on the damping. If you take a stock shock and move it towards the engine the rear suspension will become soft because of the added leverage of the swingarm. Just the opposite if you move the shock toward the axle.
1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- OutlawShank
- Topic Author
- Offline
- User
Less
More
- Posts: 5
- Thank you received: 0
09 Nov 2016 11:55 #747643
by OutlawShank
1979 KZ650
Woodstock, GA
Replied by OutlawShank on topic Lowering
Thanks for the response, I've actually heard of using the sportster shocks before. I'm thinking thats what I'm going to end up doing. I love these bikes as they are but man I hate how tall they stand!
1979 KZ650
Woodstock, GA
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.