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04 Jun 2017 08:27 #763507 by Lnovak7493
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Ya the only thing is the cushdrive assembly is off my dads old kz so i figured that wouldnt be the problem. My dads had kz's his whole life and has a bunch of parts. I will take the manual i have and do a thorough check for all the parts. The ltd is the same as the regular kz except for the tail light, and rear fender. And the ltd has no tail piece

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04 Jun 2017 08:29 #763510 by Lnovak7493
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So would dropping 3t on the rear sprocket give me the space i need? Also i found a 530 chain and sprocket kit for my bike i kinda wanna get. That would maybe give me more clearance since its a smaller chain plus the teeth on the sprocket are smaller

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04 Jun 2017 19:04 #763554 by ezrider714
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I think your statement of the cushdrive assy not being from this bike is at the crux of your problem.
I really don't see why tooth count on the sprocket within a couple of teeth would have anything to do with this issue
I agree with Ed that it doesn't look like there is room for the whole tire ass'y to move to the right without causing interference issues on that side
That to me means the 2 halves of the wheel ass'y are not properly fitted , causing the chain/sprocket to be out/to the left farther than designed, this is the space mentioned by Martin CSR
Take a look at the chain alignment with the front sprocket, I would think this condition should show a good amount of misalignment

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04 Jun 2017 20:09 #763557 by 650ed
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ezrider714 wrote: ..................That to me means the 2 halves of the wheel ass'y are not properly fitted , causing the chain/sprocket to be out/to the left farther than designed, this is the space mentioned by Martin CSR
Take a look at the chain alignment with the front sprocket, I would think this condition should show a good amount of misalignment


Excellent point! Ed

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05 Jun 2017 08:15 - 05 Jun 2017 08:21 #763587 by martin_csr
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By Lnovak7493: the only thing is the cushdrive assembly is off my dads old kz so i figured that wouldnt be the problem. ....

Try installing the correct sprocket carrier. If yours is from an earlier 1000, then that could be the problem.
In the diagram drawings at Partzilla, the 77 1000A sprocket carrier (coupling assy) looks deeper than the 1000-K.
eebbaayy photos seem to indicate the same to my eye.
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05 Jun 2017 16:55 - 05 Jun 2017 16:55 #763662 by Lnovak7493
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His bike is a 78 kz1000. Its either the cushdrive assembly or the swingarm. The swingarm on it is after market but oem. Its just a new swingarm.

The cushdrive for mine was missing

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05 Jun 2017 18:00 #763676 by Lnovak7493
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Does anybody know for sure if the 70s cushdrives are for sure wider then the 80s j model?
Martin you might know, your pretty knowledgeable

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05 Jun 2017 18:02 #763677 by Lnovak7493
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When you tighten the axle down, that should squeeze the cushdrive into the rim all the way. Now im sure its in all the way because i pushed it in with my hands then beat it with a rubber mallet lightly to make sure it was completely seated.

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05 Jun 2017 18:03 #763678 by Lnovak7493
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I wish oldkawman was on kzrider. He would know

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05 Jun 2017 20:15 #763690 by ezrider714
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Not to be to critical, but it's very hard to help diagnosis problems when every other suggestion leads to the revelation that parts that were originally presented as stock and for that bike are really something else???
It just inserts another variable that needs to be investigated
Aftermarket and OEM are polar opposites?? Is that swingarm for that bike model? or another 1000 model, is it really correct dimensionally left to right??
It appears you have a mish mash of parts that you assumed would just go together and unfortunately that doesn't happen as often as people would think, as your pictures clearly show.
Start eliminating variables,checking Part No's, verifying dimensions to determine what if any part(s) need changed
I would never ride that bike in the condition your pictures show, it's an accident waiting to happen. Let me tell you a chain locking up/tangling up at speed is not a fun ride and often is quite catastrophic
Be Safe

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05 Jun 2017 21:39 #763697 by Lnovak7493
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The swingarm is for that bike and is the same dimensions of the stock one. I believe my problem could maybe just be the cushdrive itself. I enailed oldkawman. Waiting on his reply then ill go from there i guess. If he says theyre the same dimensions, ill investigate deeper. It has to be either the cushdrive or something to do with it

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