KZ650 16" Mag Rotor/Caliper Question

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28 Mar 2020 08:52 #822001 by Hank E. Panky
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Hi Everyone,

I have a 1977 KZ650C and I'm trying to swap out the 18" mag with a 16" mag that I think came off of a 1978 KZ650SR. The wheel didn't have a brake rotor or sprocket so I swapped those over from my 18" wheel. It doesn't quite fit up correctly and I'm wondering if the SR came with a different caliper or rotor with a smaller offset. The brake side wheel spacer also seems to have a different OD.

Thanks in advance!

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28 Mar 2020 14:37 - 28 Mar 2020 14:48 #822049 by martin_csr
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If it's any help, most guys prefer an 18" Rr wheel. If the 650C parts don't swap over, then you'll probably have to get some of the SR parts off of EB. You can compare part numbers at Partzilla. The two models share a number of Rr wheel components. some spacers are different.
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28 Mar 2020 14:43 #822051 by Mikaw
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Instead of modifying a bike I’m looking for sell it to me and and buy something else. Just saying

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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28 Mar 2020 15:01 #822053 by 650ed
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Mikaw wrote: Instead of modifying a bike I’m looking for sell it to me and and buy something else. Just saying


Exactly! Selling it makes a LOT more sense than putting 16" rear wheel on a KZ650-C bike! Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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28 Mar 2020 15:47 - 28 Mar 2020 15:48 #822058 by martin_csr
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He just wants to swap the Rr wheel. What's the big deal? He should already have a good idea of whether or not the chain & disk line up. Having said that, the only thing I'd change on a 650C is to add a fork cover emblem to hide the brake joint stuff.
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28 Mar 2020 15:59 #822060 by Mikaw
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I’ve been looking for a ‘77-‘78 C especially if it’s star dust silver. Looking to relive my youth

1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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28 Mar 2020 17:48 - 28 Mar 2020 17:48 #822068 by 650ed
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martin_csr wrote: He just wants to swap the Rr wheel. What's the big deal? He should already have a good idea of whether or not the chain & disk line up. Having said that, the only thing I'd change on a 650C is to add a fork cover emblem to hide the brake joint stuff.


I don't know the difference between the 1977 KZ650-C1 (CUSTOM) swing arm and the 1978 KZ650-D1 (SR) swing arm, but the first uses part number 33001-1007 and the second uses part number 33001-1081. Any idea on what the differences may be? Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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29 Mar 2020 07:59 - 29 Mar 2020 08:24 #822101 by martin_csr
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I don't know, but two possibilities are that the chain guard mounts are different & maybe the SR is wider to accept a fatter tire? Both models use the same axle, so maybe the width is the same, but the SR has a chrome chain guard w 3 mounting bolts so that may be the reason for the different part numbers. If he has to swap swing arms, then that starts getting into pain-in-butt territory. to me anyway. I prefer things easy. hee.
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01 Apr 2020 11:50 #822397 by Hank E. Panky
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Thanks for the responses everyone. I've got an SR caliper on the way. I'll let you know what I find out.

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08 Apr 2020 12:43 #822892 by Hank E. Panky
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The SR caliper centered up the wheel in the swing arm, however, the torque arm for the caliper is slightly different. I'll probably end up making my own torque arm and turn a new wheel spacer that will fit.

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10 Apr 2020 00:11 #822995 by Mc Tavish
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G'day Hank, I too am using a 16"wheel on my project and yes the brake rotor offset is different, I was lucky to find a rim with rotor, axle and all spacers here in AU so avoided outrageous freight costs from O/S. I'm pretty sure it will fit the swingarm and caliper ok but I am not at that stage of my build yet so I'll let you know.
At the very worst I will have the local machine shop run up some new spacers.
Don't worry about the naysayers mate, absolutely nothing wrong with using a 16" rim.

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