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11 May 2021 17:28 #848337
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So I happen to come upon a set a 76K 1343 KONI shocks. I’ve looked all over the place and can’t find any info on adjustments for this model. I see the three step preload but I don’t know if there’s any other adjustment. Stamped on the body is an arrow pointing right with the word ’heavy’. I’m thinking it has to do with some kind of damping. Anybody here know about these and it’s adjustments. Thanks.
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12 May 2021 02:52 - 12 May 2021 02:53 #848343
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Ill have a look at my old alloy bodied 7610 koni's tomorrow, i'm pretty sure there's damping control on the alloy piece at the top of the shock, do you have a rubber cover in that position ? Pull it up and look for a 4 position black disc under it, its only on one side from memory...
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12 May 2021 05:52 #848344
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The company is now called Ikon. They are made in Australia. The current models that have rebound adjustment do so with a fairly obvious wheel, though in the old days, that may have been different.
www.ikonsuspensionusa.com
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12 May 2021 06:44 - 12 May 2021 06:46 #848348
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Here’s what they look like. Looks like they have been repainted some time in their life.
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12 May 2021 11:29 - 12 May 2021 11:32 #848354
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I have no idea if any of this will help you or not, but there is an old post/topic here on KZR about rebuilding Koni shocks. If you have not read or seen is as of yet I would suggest you take a look at it.
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/35294-koni-shock-rebuild-pics
Also found this on the SOHC/4 sited forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=27828.0
Also found this on the SOHC/4 sited forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=27828.0
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12 May 2021 14:58 - 12 May 2021 15:00 #848363
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1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
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12 May 2021 15:33 #848365
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Yep, that's exactly the ones I have, the ones the op has look totally different, i can't see how they could have any damping adjustment at the top. Some more detailed pictures would be good.
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Does this help
Yep, that's exactly the ones I have, the ones the op has look totally different, i can't see how they could have any damping adjustment at the top. Some more detailed pictures would be good.
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13 May 2021 05:46 #848372
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So I sent an email to KONI (IKON) along with the above picture and asked about adjustments. They sent back that I have pre 1978 shocks. Rebuild parts are no longer available. The only adjustment is the preload, no damping of any kind. They suggested not to use them. So I guess thats as far as it goes. Thanks for the posted help.
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13 May 2021 08:34 #848378
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That’s not good. I bought used thinking they could be rebuilt. I better find out what boat I’m in.
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13 May 2021 09:03 #848382
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It looks like the same Koni model that came with my bike when I bought it in 1979. I've always used the middle pre-load setting and they have held up well for the 63,000 kms that I've added to the odometer. I don't think yours have been repainted, Zeerx, as mine are the same paint scheme.
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13 May 2021 14:44 #848396
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If you have the adjustable shocks like in the pics you posted, they are rebuildable...
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That’s not good. I bought used thinking they could be rebuilt. I better find out what boat I’m in.
If you have the adjustable shocks like in the pics you posted, they are rebuildable...
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14 May 2021 11:26 #848433
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***UPDATE***
I opened my email and found another email from IKON/KONI. The one noted above was to the office in Australia. They must have forwarded it to the USA distributor. The one below is what I got. It goes into more technical detail about the shocks. I guess there is a damping adjustment on these units. It’s described in the text.
I took the springs off and found the pistons move freely, no binding. But as far as the “12 oclock to 3 oclock” adjustment, there are no stops......I can turn the to eye all the way around. Not sure if thats the way it’s suppose to be or if something is broken inside. Anyway, here’s a little more info for the collective.
Hello Rich,
As Linda at the factory has pointed out, these shocks have been obsolete now for 35+ years, so parts availability is sketchy to say the least.
To adjust the damping, you have to remove the spring first. Then, holding the top mounting 'eye' , rotate the top 'eye' of the shock either left or right. Note: there is very little movement in this action. If it were a clock face, adjustment is (approx.) from 12 to 3pm. Rotating the body in the direction of the arrow you reference, will slow down the rebound damping. Turn it the other way will lighten the rebound damping.
These 76 series Konis are notorious for disintegrated internal rebound stops which fall apart over time. If once you've removed the spring, if you find it hard to impossible to compress the damper, that's exactly what's happened. You'll have to completely disassemble the unit to clean out the now plugged orifices full of 'melted' rebound stop. You're now getting into unavailable parts which will have to be made. The piston rod seals are obsolete and were unique to Koni, so you will have to machine the gland nut (seal holder) to accept a different seal.
The only parts we carry in stock for the Koni 76 series are the large internal O ring, the upper and lower mounting bushes and springs. We do not service these units here in PA, only the Koni 7610 Dial-a-Ride series for which there is no parts supply problem.
For reference, a new pair of Ikon Basix (fixed damping) is $280/pr. and Dial-a-Ride 7610 series are $420/pr.
I hope this answers your question.
Cheers,
Roger
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I opened my email and found another email from IKON/KONI. The one noted above was to the office in Australia. They must have forwarded it to the USA distributor. The one below is what I got. It goes into more technical detail about the shocks. I guess there is a damping adjustment on these units. It’s described in the text.
I took the springs off and found the pistons move freely, no binding. But as far as the “12 oclock to 3 oclock” adjustment, there are no stops......I can turn the to eye all the way around. Not sure if thats the way it’s suppose to be or if something is broken inside. Anyway, here’s a little more info for the collective.
Hello Rich,
As Linda at the factory has pointed out, these shocks have been obsolete now for 35+ years, so parts availability is sketchy to say the least.
To adjust the damping, you have to remove the spring first. Then, holding the top mounting 'eye' , rotate the top 'eye' of the shock either left or right. Note: there is very little movement in this action. If it were a clock face, adjustment is (approx.) from 12 to 3pm. Rotating the body in the direction of the arrow you reference, will slow down the rebound damping. Turn it the other way will lighten the rebound damping.
These 76 series Konis are notorious for disintegrated internal rebound stops which fall apart over time. If once you've removed the spring, if you find it hard to impossible to compress the damper, that's exactly what's happened. You'll have to completely disassemble the unit to clean out the now plugged orifices full of 'melted' rebound stop. You're now getting into unavailable parts which will have to be made. The piston rod seals are obsolete and were unique to Koni, so you will have to machine the gland nut (seal holder) to accept a different seal.
The only parts we carry in stock for the Koni 76 series are the large internal O ring, the upper and lower mounting bushes and springs. We do not service these units here in PA, only the Koni 7610 Dial-a-Ride series for which there is no parts supply problem.
For reference, a new pair of Ikon Basix (fixed damping) is $280/pr. and Dial-a-Ride 7610 series are $420/pr.
I hope this answers your question.
Cheers,
Roger
[img]blob:https://www.kzrider.com/0adb63d2-5d1b-40f7-8f3f-5e18a530bd01[/img]
IKON SUSPENSION USA
deliveries only:
531 East Pitt Street, Suite 210, Bedford PA 15522 USA
Sales & Tech (814) 592-7003
IkonSuspensionUSA.com
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