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tv_cafewannabe wrote: GPzMOD750 - so how are you planning to mount the electronics and battery? I had though most go with a pan under the seat with the battery under the hump. I want the completely open subframe look with no side covers. I'll need to get creative and truly appreciate any feedback and ideas.
I'm not. Mine is more along a street fighter theme. The link is in my sig line. I crashed it hard enough that I'm going to have to rebuild it this winter.
There are plenty on here that have relocated all that stuff in various ways you are just going to have to do your home work, Having side panels of some sort is a more classic look IMO.
This cafe in it's final stages looks terrific.Hard to believe it's a Ninja.
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Here's a twin in it's final stages although it's more of a street tracker.
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tv_cafewannabe wrote: Nerdy - whats your verdict on those RFY shocks you have on the back end? Acceptable or not? I love piggyback reservoir shocks but don't want to spring the $$$ for real performance ones.
Yes, they're quite acceptable. I don't have many miles on them, but will say that they are a vast improvement over stock. Of course that's not saying too much.
There is someone out there who will rebuild them to a really decent spec. I'm drawing a blank on the name but if you search the forum you're sure to find it. I'm happy enough with them as they are and not planning to do anything like that right now.
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tv_cafewannabe wrote: . My understanding of the difference between a flat tracker and a cafe bike are really just the handle bars and a the fuel tank on a tracker is typically smaller. Just about everything else is interchangeable from a design perspective.
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HOLY CRAP!!!! Are you kidding?? If not, you really need to do a LOT more study on the subject because you are VERY confused. Except for the fact than both machines have two wheels there is very little remotely similar between the two. You may want to attend a flattrack race or two so you can start to appreciate the level of effort that goes into building a flattracker. Below is a good example of each. Ed
Lesson #1:
FLATTRACKER
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650ed wrote: HOLY CRAP!!!! Are you kidding?? If not, you really need to do a LOT more study on the subject because you are VERY confused. Except for the fact than both machines have two wheels there is very little remotely similar between the two. You may want to attend a flattrack race or two so you can start to appreciate the level of effort that goes into building a flattracker. Below is a good example of each. Ed
Sorry, I guess I was speaking from a styling perspective of a custom build on a Japanese bike. Obviously the two are very different from a purpose perspective like suspension settings and engine tuning. Regarding your examples, that HD XR is a factory built oval track bike made to spend its life mostly sideways drifting turns. The Norton isn't far off from factory either. Take the Harley and throw on some clip on bars, change tires to a slicker tread, and ditch the giant air filters and I think most lay folk would assume they are at least cousins of the same bike style family.
Anyway, I appreciate the feedback and opinions on styling. I'm not married to any specific design points at this stage.
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tv_cafewannabe wrote: As I understand it though, the motor and frame are effectively the same as every other KZ750 twin ever built (correct me if I'm wrong here).
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The kz750M is different in many ways from the 76-79 "B" The head-stock rake on the M is 28.5 degrees while on the B it is 26.5 degrees. The M has more fork offset, and has leading axle forks while the B has standard forks. all of this will make it handle "slower" than the B models, but be more steady at higher speed.The M has a 16" rear wheel while the B has a 18" rear wheel. The the sub-frame seat rails are much lower on the M than the B to accommodate the cruiser look Kawasaki was going for. There are also some mechanical differences, namely the carbs, but also components of the engine such as the clutch adjuster.
Not the most Ideal candidate for a cafe racer, TBH, but that doesn't mean it can not be done.
If you haven't ridden this style of bike before i would suggest you get it running and make sure there are no surprises waiting. Then ride it a bit, and if you find you like it then do whatever the hell you want with it. As you said, a non-runner of this particular model, even if its nice, isn't worth much. If you need a copy of the Factory Service manual PM me your email.
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tv_cafewannabe wrote: .................Take the Harley and throw on some clip on bars, change tires to a slicker tread, and ditch the giant air filters and I think most lay folk would assume they are at least cousins of the same bike style family..
They might assume that , but they would be incorrect. Ed
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