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25 Sep 2022 08:53 - 25 Sep 2022 09:17 #874495
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25 Sep 2022 13:05 #874519
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Welcome to the forum.
This thread may help you... www.kzrider.com/forum/forum-index/faq-wi...hings-to-know#872535
Also, I sell carb O-ring kits for Keihin CV34's like your bike uses. And you may find my 750 rebuild thread informative. Particularly the part about installing rearset footpegs off a GPz/L model 750.
Good luck
This thread may help you... www.kzrider.com/forum/forum-index/faq-wi...hings-to-know#872535
Also, I sell carb O-ring kits for Keihin CV34's like your bike uses. And you may find my 750 rebuild thread informative. Particularly the part about installing rearset footpegs off a GPz/L model 750.
Good luck
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25 Sep 2022 13:23 #874522
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Current Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project
1977 KZ1000 Restomod ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/614517-1977-kz1000-restomod )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
Replied by calum on topic New to these bikes
Welcome to the forum. There are few guys here that know their way round the 750 4's pretty well - Nessism would be one of those, especially when it comes to those carbs. Keep us posted.
Re. performance: I would recommend just getting it running well with a decent exhaust and properly jetted carbs. I run the stock exhaust on my commuter, but I had a 4-1 Delkevic on it for a while. The delkevic wasn't as good down low, but a lot better higher in the rev range. If I wanted something for weekend rides I would have kept it. It wasn't the best option when I was warming up the bike at 6am every morning though.
Once you have things running well, you can always look at bumping it up to 810cc the next winter.
Re. performance: I would recommend just getting it running well with a decent exhaust and properly jetted carbs. I run the stock exhaust on my commuter, but I had a 4-1 Delkevic on it for a while. The delkevic wasn't as good down low, but a lot better higher in the rev range. If I wanted something for weekend rides I would have kept it. It wasn't the best option when I was warming up the bike at 6am every morning though.
Once you have things running well, you can always look at bumping it up to 810cc the next winter.
Current Project:
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/616901...-spare-parts-project
1977 KZ1000 Restomod ( www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/614517-1977-kz1000-restomod )
1980 KZ750H ( kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/612054-kz750h-restoration )
2000 BMW F650GS
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25 Sep 2022 21:53 - 25 Sep 2022 21:57 #874542
by DoctoRot
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Welcome! There are quite a few performance options for these bikes, depending on your budget. GPZ750 cams are a popular swap, as are the Wiseco 810cc piston kits. If you want to go further, ditching the CV type carbs for a mechanical slide carb such as the RS34 of VM26/29 are also popular. Without knowing you budget/skillset, the two things holding this bike back from a cafe racer, in my opinion, are the leading axle forks and the subframe/short shocks. Lots of info on this site.
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26 Sep 2022 05:35 #874551
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Jim
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2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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Welcome to the forum. The KZ750 is a great platform for a custom build. The only thing holding you back is the LTD frame. Cafe' bikes IMHO, look better with a flat seat/tank juncture rather than the swayback look of the LTDs and some specials. There are examples out there of builders who have dealt successfully with that so do some research on some of the cafe' sites as well. Here's one:
Do the Ton
There is also a BookFace group Amateur Cafe' Builders which is pretty active.
Good luck
Good luck
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North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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26 Sep 2022 08:16 #874564
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A breeze from the west.
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I’ve actually been curious about how an LTD model might convert into a cafe racer. There’s a pretty clean but low priced 750 LTD on my local CL. Besides the “bone line” mentioned by ThatGPzGuy, the other thing that looks like it might be a challenge is wheel sizes. A lot of cruiser bikes have big skinny front wheels, and a small fat rear wheel. I would want to swap both for 17” wheels, so I could run modern tires. Easier said than done though of course.
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26 Sep 2022 09:12 #874574
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Keep watching my build thread, there isn't much "Ltd" leftI’ve actually been curious about how an LTD model might convert into a cafe racer. There’s a pretty clean but low priced 750 LTD on my local CL. Besides the “bone line” mentioned by ThatGPzGuy, the other thing that looks like it might be a challenge is wheel sizes. A lot of cruiser bikes have big skinny front wheels, and a small fat rear wheel. I would want to swap both for 17” wheels, so I could run modern tires. Easier said than done though of course.
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26 Sep 2022 10:37 #874597
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Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
Replied by ThatGPzGuy on topic New to these bikes
I have been. Next level stuff Wookie58 and not for the unskilled or unmoneyed.
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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26 Sep 2022 11:30 #874612
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Thanks for that but it's more about having a "what's the worst that can happen" approach (not with safety related items) I have never worked with plastic before but I figured that if I mess it up I can get another piece without breaking the bank. I am hoping that all done I will be into it for around £4K which in the UK is about the starting price for a 70's "Z" that needs work (most of the parts I am using are used from other bikes) and I bought the bike originally for £1100 as the later bikes are not yet desirable. Be brave and have a go
I have been. Next level stuff Wookie58 and not for the unskilled or unmoneyed.
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26 Sep 2022 12:23 #874624
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Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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LOL. I have. Before and after pics of my XS650 cafe'. It didn't take the amount of work yours has but I started with a Special which means small rear tire, short shocks, long forks and a small tank. Fortunately, the XS650 standard frames and special frames are very close.
Thanks for that but it's more about having a "what's the worst that can happen" approach (not with safety related items) I have never worked with plastic before but I figured that if I mess it up I can get another piece without breaking the bank. I am hoping that all done I will be into it for around £4K which in the UK is about the starting price for a 70's "Z" that needs work (most of the parts I am using are used from other bikes) and I bought the bike originally for £1100 as the later bikes are not yet desirable. Be brave and have a go
I have been. Next level stuff Wookie58 and not for the unskilled or unmoneyed.
Jim
North GA
2016 Yamaha FJR1300ES
1982 GPz750 R1
1974 Kawasaki H1
1976 Kawasaki KZ400
1979 Yamaha XS650 cafe'
2001 KZ1000P
2001 Yamaha YZ426
1981 Honda XR200 stroked in an '89 CR125 chassis
1965 Mustang
1967 Triumph GT6
1976 Bronco
"If you didn't build it, it's not really yours"
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26 Sep 2022 12:58 #874626
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That is a sweet ride, "proper classic cafe racer" not a hacked up subframe and a brown seat. You sir also have skills
LOL. I have. Before and after pics of my XS650 cafe'. It didn't take the amount of work yours has but I started with a Special which means small rear tire, short shocks, long forks and a small tank. Fortunately, the XS650 standard frames and special frames are very close.
Thanks for that but it's more about having a "what's the worst that can happen" approach (not with safety related items) I have never worked with plastic before but I figured that if I mess it up I can get another piece without breaking the bank. I am hoping that all done I will be into it for around £4K which in the UK is about the starting price for a 70's "Z" that needs work (most of the parts I am using are used from other bikes) and I bought the bike originally for £1100 as the later bikes are not yet desirable. Be brave and have a go
I have been. Next level stuff Wookie58 and not for the unskilled or unmoneyed.
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