1982 Spectre Tacho Fault

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23 Jan 2024 08:26 #894343 by Sparfla
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Hello KZr Forum Members,
I'm new here, but after searching the forum I don't think this precise query has come up before - I'm hoping someone out there has the knowledge I need...
I've very recently bought a 1982 KZ1100 Spectre which is mostly in decent running order apart from the tacho doesn't work.
The tacho on this one gets an electrical feed from the battery and then uses the ignition coils to get the rpm signal.  I've checked the voltages to the tacho and they're fine, so it seems like the fault is with the tacho itself.
Does anyone know if these are repairable, or if there is anyone in the UK who repairs this type of tacho?
Thanks in advance...
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23 Jan 2024 10:56 - 23 Jan 2024 11:05 #894355 by howardhb
Replied by howardhb on topic 1982 Spectre Tacho Fault
Welcome to the forum Sparfla!

Mine failed similarly...
The mechanism comprises a semicircular magnet, and (very) tiny moving coil...





One wire on that tiny coil "fatigued" and broke off the connecting pin, which is soldered to the tiny brass spiral return spring.

I had to unwind the coil to get to the end that broke off, then rewind it, leaving a "tail" that I could solder back onto the pin.
The coil measures 77ohm when properly connected.

So, I managed to repair it myself,  but it was quite "fiddley", being so tiny.

H.
 

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23 Jan 2024 11:44 #894360 by Sparfla
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Thank you so much howardhb - that is so useful, great to have the photos too.  Looks as though I might be testing out my soldering skills at the weekend!

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23 Jan 2024 11:51 #894362 by Street Fighter LTD
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Welcome to KZRider 
Lots of great help here. 
Dave


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09 Mar 2024 04:42 #896206 by Sparfla
Replied by Sparfla on topic 1982 Spectre Tacho Fault
Hi H,
I've only just today found time to remove the tacho to see if I have the same fault as you had. I have the tacho off the bike but it doesn't seem to want to come apart and I don't want to force anything.  Can you recall how the unit is held together?
Thanks again,
Sparfla

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09 Mar 2024 05:27 #896207 by Sparfla
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Okay, I've opened the case, next "how do I" is about getting the gauge pointer separated from the mechanism behind the dial?

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09 Mar 2024 05:32 #896208 by TexasKZ
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You can use a couple of spoons, one directly across from the other. The tips of the spoons should be under the needle, just touching the shaft. Pry very gently on each spoon hanndle.

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09 Mar 2024 05:33 #896209 by TexasKZ
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Seems like there is an article on this under the Articles tab.

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09 Mar 2024 05:38 #896210 by TexasKZ
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Welp, memory fail. I do not see the article here, but I do have a copy. 

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09 Mar 2024 07:14 #896216 by Sparfla
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Two spoon, who'd have thought...it worked a treat!
Thanks TexasKZ - I love this forum 

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09 Mar 2024 12:46 - 09 Mar 2024 12:47 #896223 by TexasKZ
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Two spoon, who'd have thought...it worked a treat!
Thanks TexasKZ - I love this forum 
And the money you saved can go toward a set of carbon fiber wheels, or that platinum plated titanium widget installer you have your eyes on 

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