Rebuild electrical hardness with M-unit

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25 Sep 2024 05:20 #904592 by gordone
I`m considering rebuild my whole  electrical hardness and use a M-unit and a new speeso/rpm gauges.
Make it modern and don`t foucs on beeing classic.

Questions pop-up in my head:
1. What cables to use ?
2. What connectors to use ?
3. How to protect the cables a modern way?


 

1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine

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25 Sep 2024 05:51 - 25 Sep 2024 05:53 #904593 by Wookie58
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I`m considering rebuild my whole  electrical hardness and use a M-unit and a new speeso/rpm gauges.
Make it modern and don`t foucs on beeing classic.

Questions pop-up in my head:
1. What cables to use ? Use the calculator in my "elec diagnosis guide" (link in my signature) to ensure correct cable sizing for each circuit and only use "multi-strand" automotive specific cable
2. What connectors to use ? As you are not looking to stay original the choice is infinite, personally I am using "DTM" style weatherproof connectors for pretty much everything
3. How to protect the cables a modern way? You can either use "tape" or sleeving (I will predominantly be using "shrink sleeving" in my build




 
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25 Sep 2024 06:19 #904595 by chopper1963
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I saw some fellows build a new wiring harness at a WSBK race once. They used marine cabling ...

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25 Sep 2024 06:26 #904596 by Wookie58
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I saw some fellows build a new wiring harness at a WSBK race once. They used marine cabling ...
That would work but probably a higher spec and therefore cost (WSKB budgets are eyewatering) than is required for this application, ideally you don't want to "over-do" insulation thickness or you will end up with a loom like "a baby's arm" (just my opinion) 

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25 Sep 2024 08:20 #904598 by gordone
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Thank you :)

Is it other thing to consider?

Use different colour on the cable for easier troubleshooting in the future?

Use shoes on all end where you terminate the wire?

1981 KZ650-D4, with 1981 z750L engine (Wiensco 810 big bore).

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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/607213...sr-1981-z750l-engine

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25 Sep 2024 08:42 #904600 by Wookie58
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Thank you :)

Is it other thing to consider?

Use different colour on the cable for easier troubleshooting in the future? As much as possible try and stick with OE colour coding, it will make diagnosing potential issues easier at a later date

Use shoes on all end where you terminate the wire? Not sure what you mean by this ??

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26 Sep 2024 01:22 #904619 by gordone
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26 Sep 2024 01:28 #904620 by Wookie58
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Sorry still not clear what that is, do you mean were the wires go into the "M" unit ? - if so I would simply twist the end and solder it to prevent fraying 

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26 Sep 2024 05:45 #904622 by Move0ver
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With the M-unit you want to use a special Ferrule Crimper to crimp the ferrules onto the end of the wires.  It gives a much more secure connection. 

Don't take shortcuts.

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26 Sep 2024 05:58 #904623 by Wookie58
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With the M-unit you want to use a special Ferrule Crimper to crimp the ferrules onto the end of the wires.  It gives a much more secure connection. 

Don't take shortcuts.
So does the "M" unit come with ferrules ? (every day's a "school day" )

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26 Sep 2024 06:20 #904624 by Move0ver
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No, I forgot where I purchased my stuff from...  I'll have to look.

But here's a thread where I did the M-unit on a GS750E 

www.caferacer.net/posts/627737/
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26 Sep 2024 11:46 #904636 by F64
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This webpage has helped me in the past.
www.rbracing-rsr.com/wiring_ecu.html

You can try Mouser Norway for supplies
no.mouser.com/

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