'78 KZ1000 makeover
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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
17 Apr 2011 15:34especially for flat trackers! :sick: :woohoo:mark1122 wrote:porchev914 wrote: 530 pitch, 7/8" offset. When I measured my required offset, it was just shy of 15/16"
I am hoping that 1/16" out of alignment won't matter.
Unless u are a very talented track racer that can achieve high lean angles, 1/16" will make NO DIF. 1/4" is common.
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23 Apr 2011 01:38 - 23 Apr 2011 12:38
Thats good to know guys. I got my sprocket earlier this week, but I haven't had any time to take and post pics of it until now. Isn't it just beautiful 

FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
23 Apr 2011 05:57
Very nice. How thick is the spline wall?
1 x 77 Z1000
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1 x 77 Z1000
1327 Wiseco,cams
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RF900 frontend.
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1080,cams,ported
29 smoothbores,
Akron rims,Martin Swingarm
1 x 77 Z1000
1327 Wiseco,cams
ported,34.5 S/bores
GSXR swingarm
RF900 frontend.
1 x 2008 Nightrain
shotgun shock,corbin
seat,fat bars,some bling.
www.kzrider.com/media/kunena/attachments/8119/IMG_0461.JPG
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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
23 Apr 2011 09:37
Likely already mentioned somewhere among the past 50 pages, but could use a reminder as to whether outboard support is planned for the counter shaft sprocket. 
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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
23 Apr 2011 12:37
Harvey, I'll have to get back to you on that. The sprocket is at home, and I'm not. I would hope that it is the same thickness as a stock sprocket, or it might throw my offset measurement off.
Patton, you mean this thing right here?
Yeah, I've got it covered, black anodized and everything
Patton, you mean this thing right here?

Yeah, I've got it covered, black anodized and everything

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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
26 Apr 2011 16:45
Don't worry Joe, I'm sure OMR will be just fine 
I made two phone calls yesterday, one to A.P.E., and one to Z1E. The call to A.P.E. was to order tranny bearings. I was very suprised to have them show up this morning :woohoo:
The call to Z1E didn't go so well at first. I called to basically order the remainder of the timing components (idler gears, rubber isolators, chain guide....). I have a new timing chain already, but I figured I would simply call and ask them to send me all of the other timing system wear items. I did not consult a microfiche or parts diagram as I usualy do, this time relying on the knowledge of the salesman to sell me the parts I would need. The salesman (Rob I think?) reacted very differently than I had anticipated, and basically told me he didn't have time to help me place my order with such a broad request, and to look up what I needed and call back. I was shocked, and told him so. I thanked him and said I would do the research and get back with an exact parts list. To his credit and a show of absolute professionalism, he called me back 15 minutes later and apologised for his behavior. It takes alot of charachter to call back an anonymous client and apologise like that. For that, I thank Z1E for employing salesmen of charachter and honor
I still need to put that parts list together, but just looking at the rough cost its somewhere around $300-$500 worth of parts. :ohmy:

I made two phone calls yesterday, one to A.P.E., and one to Z1E. The call to A.P.E. was to order tranny bearings. I was very suprised to have them show up this morning :woohoo:
The call to Z1E didn't go so well at first. I called to basically order the remainder of the timing components (idler gears, rubber isolators, chain guide....). I have a new timing chain already, but I figured I would simply call and ask them to send me all of the other timing system wear items. I did not consult a microfiche or parts diagram as I usualy do, this time relying on the knowledge of the salesman to sell me the parts I would need. The salesman (Rob I think?) reacted very differently than I had anticipated, and basically told me he didn't have time to help me place my order with such a broad request, and to look up what I needed and call back. I was shocked, and told him so. I thanked him and said I would do the research and get back with an exact parts list. To his credit and a show of absolute professionalism, he called me back 15 minutes later and apologised for his behavior. It takes alot of charachter to call back an anonymous client and apologise like that. For that, I thank Z1E for employing salesmen of charachter and honor

FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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26 Apr 2011 17:05
Looks good to me. I'm surprised about that experience too, but I guess it is a big list of crap to look up.
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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
26 Apr 2011 18:05
so,
adam could you just go ahead and make a list of those timing components,:whistle: .
quantities,part numbers and such,then just go ahead and post the list to help everyone else (including rob(i think))out. :pinch:
because i have an upcoming project that i need to purchase those exact timing components.
and,
somehow i feel like i might have a better shopping experience if i just call them with a list. :kiss:
leon
adam could you just go ahead and make a list of those timing components,:whistle: .
quantities,part numbers and such,then just go ahead and post the list to help everyone else (including rob(i think))out. :pinch:
because i have an upcoming project that i need to purchase those exact timing components.
and,
somehow i feel like i might have a better shopping experience if i just call them with a list. :kiss:
leon
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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
26 Apr 2011 18:12 - 26 Apr 2011 18:22
I wonder if the KZ1000 has two different sets? Because the 650 did. My 650 came without those rubber rectangular prisms to keep the shafts in place, and as a result the bottom rubber roller which is rubber was chewed to pieces. I now have a later model shaft with rubber dampers on that shaft. The other two are still plain shafts, but those are sprockets and hence align themselves.
Oh the trials and tribulations of having a KZ650 made in June '76.
Also, how important would you say is replacing the rubber dampers on the top idler sprocket? I know APE has billet blocks for it but I'm unsure if thats necessary.
I think this is still roughly on topic, but this is Adam's thread, which goes off topic more than most so I'm not worried haha.
Here's what I'm talking about. The shafts numbered 9 and 11 come on my bike as plain shafts, no steps, no dampers. This is a part diagram for a 1977 too, even Kawi doesn't acknowledge my situation.
Oh the trials and tribulations of having a KZ650 made in June '76.
Also, how important would you say is replacing the rubber dampers on the top idler sprocket? I know APE has billet blocks for it but I'm unsure if thats necessary.
I think this is still roughly on topic, but this is Adam's thread, which goes off topic more than most so I'm not worried haha.
Here's what I'm talking about. The shafts numbered 9 and 11 come on my bike as plain shafts, no steps, no dampers. This is a part diagram for a 1977 too, even Kawi doesn't acknowledge my situation.
1977 KZ650B1
-810cc
-Cavanaugh Racing Head
-Mikuni RS34's
-GPR Muffler
-810cc
-Cavanaugh Racing Head
-Mikuni RS34's
-GPR Muffler
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Re: '78 KZ1000 makeover
26 Apr 2011 18:57
My project thread NEVER gets off topic. I'm not sure what your talking about Tyler :whistle:
Leon here you go:
Cam Chain Guide Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 PM72-065 $20.50
Cam Chain Idler Sprocket - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 - Liska LIZ1I $76.57 (2) required
Cam Chain Roller - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 IM055-002 $13.95
Cam Chain Tensioner Assy 12048-001 $59.88
Cam Chain Idler Assembly - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 - Liska LIZ1TI $91.39
Rubber cam chain idler damper 92075-232 $2.06 (4) required
Rubber cam chain center idler damper 92075-123 $3.06 (2) required
Grand total $353.22
If I forgot anything, feel free to correct/amend this list.
Leon here you go:
Cam Chain Guide Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 PM72-065 $20.50
Cam Chain Idler Sprocket - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 - Liska LIZ1I $76.57 (2) required
Cam Chain Roller - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 IM055-002 $13.95
Cam Chain Tensioner Assy 12048-001 $59.88
Cam Chain Idler Assembly - Z1 KZ900 KZ1000 - Liska LIZ1TI $91.39
Rubber cam chain idler damper 92075-232 $2.06 (4) required
Rubber cam chain center idler damper 92075-123 $3.06 (2) required
Grand total $353.22
If I forgot anything, feel free to correct/amend this list.
FRANKEN Z!
1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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