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08 Dec 2008 05:13 - 08 Dec 2008 05:20 #251414
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KZ700-A1 (1984)
525 chain conversion; Dyna 2,2 ohm coils; Taylor plugwires; Stainless steel ZR-7 exhaust ; Remus muffler.
Plans: GPZ cams, ported head, 17 inch wheels, EFI....
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Really nice (but expensive) swingarms from Japan:
www.noblest.co.jp/sculpture/swing_arm.html
:woohoo:
This one is about $1600 (if I understand correctly):
www.noblest.co.jp/sculpture/swing_arm.html
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This one is about $1600 (if I understand correctly):
KZ700-A1 (1984)
525 chain conversion; Dyna 2,2 ohm coils; Taylor plugwires; Stainless steel ZR-7 exhaust ; Remus muffler.
Plans: GPZ cams, ported head, 17 inch wheels, EFI....
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09 Dec 2008 16:18 #251650
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Thinking I want aluminum. redline is steel and so is the german one. the jap one is very nice but way too much $$$ It seems the jmc is the nicest for the price. I started emails back and forth with them. I tried to call them but could not get through. I will see if I can get that straight, so I can see if i can get a real time frame for delivery. I still want to talk to tracs, overracing and mcintosh.:S
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09 Dec 2008 16:35 #251652
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Mike D
- 79 KZ1000 LTD Supercharged
- 80 KZ1000 1105cc Pridmore/Vetter tribute
- 79 Honda CBX
- 03 Z1000 Mod
- 80 KZ1000 LTD Modified
- 80 KZ1000 LTD PROJECT on Hold
- 78 KZ1000/900 - Street big block
- 78 KZ1000-NEEDS HELP!
- 80 CBX -Project STARTED
- 81 GPZ1100
- GSRX1200
- 80 CB750F supersport......
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be sure to keep us informed. I agree with the aluminum. I compared weight and thought if I'm doing all this, mine as well make the best out of it. I'm having a GS arm polished to see how close it will come to the 'sculpture' version
Trac is Aluminum - surely not a pretty as the sculpture from japan, but nicer then the GS.
McIntosh is box steel only
Trac is Aluminum - surely not a pretty as the sculpture from japan, but nicer then the GS.
McIntosh is box steel only
Mike D
- 79 KZ1000 LTD Supercharged
- 80 KZ1000 1105cc Pridmore/Vetter tribute
- 79 Honda CBX
- 03 Z1000 Mod
- 80 KZ1000 LTD Modified
- 80 KZ1000 LTD PROJECT on Hold
- 78 KZ1000/900 - Street big block
- 78 KZ1000-NEEDS HELP!
- 80 CBX -Project STARTED
- 81 GPZ1100
- GSRX1200
- 80 CB750F supersport......
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09 Dec 2008 17:34 - 09 Dec 2008 17:35 #251661
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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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10 Dec 2008 16:16 #251842
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I did it!!! I placed the Order. Emails back and forth state that the KZ arm is pretty straight forward to make and it should be done beginning of march or sooner.
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10 Dec 2008 17:22 #251852
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Mike D
- 79 KZ1000 LTD Supercharged
- 80 KZ1000 1105cc Pridmore/Vetter tribute
- 79 Honda CBX
- 03 Z1000 Mod
- 80 KZ1000 LTD Modified
- 80 KZ1000 LTD PROJECT on Hold
- 78 KZ1000/900 - Street big block
- 78 KZ1000-NEEDS HELP!
- 80 CBX -Project STARTED
- 81 GPZ1100
- GSRX1200
- 80 CB750F supersport......
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Congrates!
Assuming you got the JMC arm - Nice!
Assuming you got the JMC arm - Nice!
Mike D
- 79 KZ1000 LTD Supercharged
- 80 KZ1000 1105cc Pridmore/Vetter tribute
- 79 Honda CBX
- 03 Z1000 Mod
- 80 KZ1000 LTD Modified
- 80 KZ1000 LTD PROJECT on Hold
- 78 KZ1000/900 - Street big block
- 78 KZ1000-NEEDS HELP!
- 80 CBX -Project STARTED
- 81 GPZ1100
- GSRX1200
- 80 CB750F supersport......
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11 Dec 2008 20:02 #252110
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1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE
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ive seen most of the stuff out there now in person. i still like the trac set-up the best.
1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
I THINK MY POWERBAND BROKE
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12 Dec 2008 06:50 - 12 Dec 2008 06:57 #252177
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yeah, but look at this thing!! Just got off the "tele" with Stephen he said 12 weeks even with the 2 week holiday shutdown. All for 569 pounds ($853) Wow!! I can wait for that. cheers!! I will keep you guys up to date.
Why JMC?
Major breakthrough june 2008
New derivitive of 7020 Developed in conjunction with jmc by one of europes leading extruders to give the toughest and yet most formable alloy ever. more details soon
At Jmc, we've been designing and manufacturing swingarms for 23 years.
We pride ourselves on advancing swingarm design and using the best materials we can source. That's why all our swingarms are manufactured from 7020 aluminium, using our own bespoke extrusion, not only for the 'arms themselves but also our bracing section. This currently costs around 2.5 times the price per kilo of 6000 series aluminium which other swingarm manufacturers use, so you can understand why we shake our heads when we see the high prices of other swingarm manufacturers!
We use high-end CAD software to draw and design specific parts and components, whether it's a whole swingarm front-end, linkage mounting points or our Pro-Street slotted adjusters. They're all meticulously designed, tested and then machined on our CNC machine.
Our swingarms, like for like, are nearly always lighter than stock and are fundamentally stiffer than your stock swingarm offering improved, more responsive handling and reducing unsprung weight
Why JMC?
Major breakthrough june 2008
New derivitive of 7020 Developed in conjunction with jmc by one of europes leading extruders to give the toughest and yet most formable alloy ever. more details soon
At Jmc, we've been designing and manufacturing swingarms for 23 years.
We pride ourselves on advancing swingarm design and using the best materials we can source. That's why all our swingarms are manufactured from 7020 aluminium, using our own bespoke extrusion, not only for the 'arms themselves but also our bracing section. This currently costs around 2.5 times the price per kilo of 6000 series aluminium which other swingarm manufacturers use, so you can understand why we shake our heads when we see the high prices of other swingarm manufacturers!
We use high-end CAD software to draw and design specific parts and components, whether it's a whole swingarm front-end, linkage mounting points or our Pro-Street slotted adjusters. They're all meticulously designed, tested and then machined on our CNC machine.
Our swingarms, like for like, are nearly always lighter than stock and are fundamentally stiffer than your stock swingarm offering improved, more responsive handling and reducing unsprung weight
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12 Dec 2008 07:43 #252181
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1976 KZ900
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2007 FZ1000
2004 ninja 250R for wife
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i want i want i want i want i want
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12 Dec 2008 07:56 #252185
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skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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could you weigh that pretty lil-dude when you get it and post the weight?just curious.
skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!
billybiltit.blogspot.com/
www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work
kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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12 Dec 2008 08:56 #252197
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'75 Z1B with mods
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I have a JMC swingarm I bought from the swingarms.com website a number of years back. My experience was sort of mixed, but it turned out alright. I specified a Z1 arm 1" over w/o brace to match a donor ZX-11C rear wheel, use dual shock mounts. Took about 10 weeks for the thing to arrive as this utterly fantastic gleaming piece of lightweight aluminum art.
But the details of fitting quickly became a nightmare. In a way, I can understand the problems -- the engineering to deal with the back end geometry is significant. And I was trying to wedge a big-ass rear meat/axle in there - 180 fits. Long story short, I had to slice into my sweet new swingarm and have a welder move the shock mounts. Also had to custom machine the rear hub to avoid shock/sprocket interference and get chain run right. ZX-11C has a very wide rear axle.
I was in contact with Stephen at JMC several times and can tell you the customer service is just excellent. Stephen reimbursed me for the welding work and apologized.
A few lessons I learned:
- Chain/sprockets/shock geometry interactions are tricky for the amateur engineer. Extending the swingarm actually helps to move the shock mounts away from the sprocket and chain, separate those issues. Mine all converge in one spot.
- The Z1 frames seem to vary quite a bit -- my chain JUST slides past the front frame tube with 7/8" offset sprocket, but dragged on several hard pieces requiring further customization. I have heard some only accepting 5/8" offset without flattening/moving the frame. Am using an outboard bearing support for 7/8" offset sprocket from PMFR (also beautiful piece btw) and 530 chain conversion.
- Damn near everything in the rear end drive is custom somehow now, not quite stock for any of the Kawasaki product's involved. The bike works great, but it's a lot of info to keep track of. I limited the changes where possible. E.g. My brakes/chain/wheels/tires are all ZX-11C.
But the details of fitting quickly became a nightmare. In a way, I can understand the problems -- the engineering to deal with the back end geometry is significant. And I was trying to wedge a big-ass rear meat/axle in there - 180 fits. Long story short, I had to slice into my sweet new swingarm and have a welder move the shock mounts. Also had to custom machine the rear hub to avoid shock/sprocket interference and get chain run right. ZX-11C has a very wide rear axle.
I was in contact with Stephen at JMC several times and can tell you the customer service is just excellent. Stephen reimbursed me for the welding work and apologized.
A few lessons I learned:
- Chain/sprockets/shock geometry interactions are tricky for the amateur engineer. Extending the swingarm actually helps to move the shock mounts away from the sprocket and chain, separate those issues. Mine all converge in one spot.
- The Z1 frames seem to vary quite a bit -- my chain JUST slides past the front frame tube with 7/8" offset sprocket, but dragged on several hard pieces requiring further customization. I have heard some only accepting 5/8" offset without flattening/moving the frame. Am using an outboard bearing support for 7/8" offset sprocket from PMFR (also beautiful piece btw) and 530 chain conversion.
- Damn near everything in the rear end drive is custom somehow now, not quite stock for any of the Kawasaki product's involved. The bike works great, but it's a lot of info to keep track of. I limited the changes where possible. E.g. My brakes/chain/wheels/tires are all ZX-11C.
'75 Z1B with mods
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