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15 May 2009 06:51 - 15 May 2009 06:52 #291365
by Patton
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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StreetfighterKz wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Doug . . . who's afraid of some piddley spinal compression fractures. And those old dental fillings probably need replacing anyway! :laugh: :laugh:
Why do you want to make your bike into a hardtail? You'll get better traction with correctly setup shocks. Later, Doug
Aw, c'mon, Doug . . . who's afraid of some piddley spinal compression fractures. And those old dental fillings probably need replacing anyway! :laugh: :laugh:
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15 May 2009 08:18 #291381
by StreetfighterKz
1978 z1000 Streetfighter
1976 z900 Stripfighter (work in progress)
1983 Gpz750 Resto-Mod
1989 Vmax
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Patton wrote:
Aw, c'mon, Doug . . . who's afraid of some piddley spinal compression fractures. And those old dental fillings probably need replacing anyway! :laugh: :laugh:[/quote]
I'm 27 with minor back problems since I was 22 and my L3 and L4 verterbrae have been slightly twisted for almost a year. I'm good without any more back trouble. But enough about me...:blink:
I was thinking about his rear tire unloading when he hits a frost heave or expansion joint doing 70mph on the freeway. Not a great feeling I'm sure.
Later, Doug
Aw, c'mon, Doug . . . who's afraid of some piddley spinal compression fractures. And those old dental fillings probably need replacing anyway! :laugh: :laugh:[/quote]
I'm 27 with minor back problems since I was 22 and my L3 and L4 verterbrae have been slightly twisted for almost a year. I'm good without any more back trouble. But enough about me...:blink:
I was thinking about his rear tire unloading when he hits a frost heave or expansion joint doing 70mph on the freeway. Not a great feeling I'm sure.
Later, Doug
1978 z1000 Streetfighter
1976 z900 Stripfighter (work in progress)
1983 Gpz750 Resto-Mod
1989 Vmax
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15 May 2009 08:24 #291382
by 650ed
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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Interesting that one would put mount a more modern swingarm but then offset its advantages by making it fixed. I would think that when riding on irregular surfaces the rear tire on a hardtail would tend to bounce more because of the up and down momentum of the mass of the bike (to which it is rigidly mounted) compared to one that is suspended and only has the mass of the wheel, brake, and swingarm components. I thought one object of good suspensions was to reduce unsprung weight. Ed
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15 May 2009 11:38 #291417
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15 May 2009 15:45 #291472
by franknsr
Formerly CSRchopper
1991 KZ1000P
Gone but not forgotten
1986 ZG1000
1982 650 CSR -shoulda kept this one-
Lisle Illinois, USA
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Yea boy, let me tell ya....I was toying with the idea of selling the ol chopper the while I was out for a ride the other day. It's road construction central around here and after the last pothole compressed the air out of my lungs I realized this is a young man's bike.
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15 May 2009 16:13 #291476
by z1kzonly
Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!
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Livin in "CheektaVegas, NY
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!
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28 May 2009 18:26 #294721
by Mercymac
"If you dont know where you're going, its hard to get there.."
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Haha... thanks guys for all your feed back, and the one who illustrated the picture of my bike was correct, the wrench is just serving as a temporary support until i get something (shocks or struts) which i have now decided to go with shocks... i got a brand new pair for 90 bucks.. so thanks again.. hoping to have pics soonn..
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28 May 2009 19:19 #294744
by PLUMMEN
Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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z1kzonly wrote:
where did you get those footpeg brackets?Might be why I have had lumbar surgery.
And I have never rode this one yet
Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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30 May 2009 08:56 #295024
by Bdog
kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/338400-a-little-bit-of-an-upgrade
'77 KZ650-C1 -- build
810 kit
GPZ cams and carbs
ZX6R front end
GSXR600 Rear
Kerker
Dyna
Accel
ContiMotion tires (120/60-17&170/60-17)
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Really??! You guys can't deduce that the wrench is hooked on the brake stay for that swingarm and its probably only there because the wrench wasn't long enough to give the appropriate height for the builderfor the mock up? That's amazing.
The reasons for a more modern swingarm are numerous, including: wider more, modern sticky rear tire; lighter than steel; more rigid than the stock unit; this one is like two inches longer than stock for a higher launch RPM, he wanted struts for a 900--might drag race it on the weekends and maybe cruise the ice cream shop parking lots on sat night!!!
z1kzonly's struts are pretty right on and the good thing about something like that is--they are struts and not a hard tail, so they can be pulled and shocks put in when you ARE tired of them. I wouldn't suggest a 4 hr. ride or nothing, but there isn't anything better for about 11 sec. runs!
That might be about 4 cents worth.
Brandon
The reasons for a more modern swingarm are numerous, including: wider more, modern sticky rear tire; lighter than steel; more rigid than the stock unit; this one is like two inches longer than stock for a higher launch RPM, he wanted struts for a 900--might drag race it on the weekends and maybe cruise the ice cream shop parking lots on sat night!!!
z1kzonly's struts are pretty right on and the good thing about something like that is--they are struts and not a hard tail, so they can be pulled and shocks put in when you ARE tired of them. I wouldn't suggest a 4 hr. ride or nothing, but there isn't anything better for about 11 sec. runs!
That might be about 4 cents worth.
Brandon
kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/338400-a-little-bit-of-an-upgrade
'77 KZ650-C1 -- build
810 kit
GPZ cams and carbs
ZX6R front end
GSXR600 Rear
Kerker
Dyna
Accel
ContiMotion tires (120/60-17&170/60-17)
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