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16 Jul 2013 11:01 #596741
by 650ed
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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It still rubs, but it looks much more straight with you on the bike, and I suspect a slider would help prevent damage to the swing arm and chain. One other possibility you may want to look into is going to larger sprockets on the front and rear if possible. I don't know what's available or what's the largest engine sprocket that will fit, but you might be able to increase the diameter of the front and rear sprockets and maintain the same overall ratio while letting the increased sprocket diameters lift the chain a little higher off the swing arm. Ed
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26 Jul 2013 16:44 #598420
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-Dave
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yea Ed, Ive looked at it a bunch of different ways. Its a 17t front and it looks really close already. and the rear is a 48t and to me its kinda on the big side as far as my tastes go. what kinda worms would I open myself up to if i relocate? it just seems like the most proper way to get what Kind of room I need
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26 Jul 2013 16:54 #598422
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Are you actually sizing your sprockets based on how they look? :blink:
As you have described your sprockets, you have a drive ratio of 2.82:1 (48/17=2.82 about)
By increasing the front to 18 and the rear to 51 your drive ratio would be almost unchanged at 2.83:1 (again 51/18 = 2.83 about) With this change your sprocket line would rise slightly above where it is now.
Don't be ridiculous! It's only a flesh wound!
[strike]Wife's little bike... 1984 GPZ 550 Kerker and DynaJet stage I kit[/strike]
Wife's BIG bike......[strike] 1981 GPZ 1100 Kerker and [strike]factory FI[/strike] Mikuni RS34s W/ K&N pods[/strike] SOLD
Replied by slayer61 on topic Swing arm mod blues
chonus wrote: Its a 17t front and it looks really close already. and the rear is a 48t and to me its kinda on the big side as far as my tastes go.
Are you actually sizing your sprockets based on how they look? :blink:
As you have described your sprockets, you have a drive ratio of 2.82:1 (48/17=2.82 about)
By increasing the front to 18 and the rear to 51 your drive ratio would be almost unchanged at 2.83:1 (again 51/18 = 2.83 about) With this change your sprocket line would rise slightly above where it is now.
Don't be ridiculous! It's only a flesh wound!
[strike]Wife's little bike... 1984 GPZ 550 Kerker and DynaJet stage I kit[/strike]
Wife's BIG bike......[strike] 1981 GPZ 1100 Kerker and [strike]factory FI[/strike] Mikuni RS34s W/ K&N pods[/strike] SOLD
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26 Jul 2013 17:06 #598428
by chonus
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slayer, yes and no, I just dont want a huge rear sprocket. I see stunt bikes use them and yes I know why, and I think it looks stupid, despite the advantages. I know a 51 is not a huge sprocket and Im also unsure if an 18t front will fit, let alone if I can even get one in the offset I need (off the shelf)and besides, what would 1 up front and 3 out back give me? maybe, maybe an eighth. when the bike is sitting, unloaded, it needs another 1/2" at least.
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26 Jul 2013 17:25 #598433
by Kidkawie
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Run it as-is. But you need a slider and a guide. If you're still worried, add sag.
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27 Jul 2013 01:58 #598520
by porchev914
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1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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What the others said~ throw a chain slider on it. If you are asking here if you can relocate the swingarm pivot, then you might not want to attempt it. Chain sliders are tough, and lots of modern sport bikes and ALL dirt bikes use them. If I walked out and took a pic of my YZF450 sitting on its stand, it would look worse than your pic.
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