Speed Triple Single Sided Swingarm Installation

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22 Mar 2010 20:17 #355526 by porchev914
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A close up of the left side

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1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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23 Mar 2010 06:44 #355583 by mark1122
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porchev914 wrote:


Those following know I have been working on new rear motor mounts. Mount #1 was a failure due to my attempt to cheat. #2 is pictured- tell me what you think, and if you see a way to improve it!

So u made 1 tab that mounts to the motor longer, in order to get the main beam to line up with the frame bolts.
At least i think thats what i see.
I think thats Fantastic. Smart and simple.
Id get u to make me 1, but u would need a straight frame for a model.:laugh: Just kiddin, not like my frame is straight.
Nice job.B)

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23 Mar 2010 07:28 #355597 by 531blackbanshee
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is it going to crowd your chain run?
was i correct in reading that you are thinking that you are going to need a 1.500 inch offset countershaft sprocket?
that is almost out of the frame,or well into the frame rail isn't it :evil:?while you are doing motor mount mods might be a good time to get that chain run ironed out.
for all i know you already got it figured out and are just waiting to show us :unsure: .
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23 Mar 2010 08:59 #355611 by porchev914
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I could make you one Mark, but your right, I'd need a straight frame to make something to fit your bike :laugh:

Very perceptive Leon- 1.5" offset would indeed put the chain in my frame. The only reason it's not in this case is the frame widening I performed to fit the swingarm ;) BUT, asthetics aside, that is the one concern I have with this motor mount is crowding the chain run. I may have to remove the tabe and nut on the left side and replace it with a thicker tab that can be threaded. That, I think, would eliminate the possiblity of chain interference. Thank you guys for the input :cheer:
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23 Mar 2010 21:33 #355752 by porchev914
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And here we have the completion of the motor mounts. Not exciting stuff, but this is the end of the frame modifications for the single sided swingarm. I removed the engine cases for welding and a better shot of the new motor mounts in place.

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23 Mar 2010 21:35 #355753 by porchev914
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In that last pic its easy to see the new upper motor mount bushings tacked in place. Those will get full welded to the frame, and also welded to replacement frame gussets. Here a pic of just the upper mount.

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23 Mar 2010 21:38 #355754 by porchev914
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Last but not least is the bottom mount. Frankly, I just replaced the stock cross brace with a new tube, then made a couple of tabs and welded them to the tube.

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23 Mar 2010 21:49 - 23 Mar 2010 21:52 #355757 by porchev914
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So my friends, that almost concludes the frame modifications I felt necessary to mount a Triumph Speed Triple single sided swingarm in my KZ1000 frame. When I aquire a rear shock I'll update this thread with the mounting, but that part is standard for any mono shock build, and there are hundereds of those. Nothing special there. Now I will move on to structurally reinforcing the frame. I figured that there are probably hundereds of threads on people reinforcing their frames, so Is there anyone following this that really wants me to document the reinforcing mods? Or is that part of the build just ho-hum, been there done that crap?

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24 Mar 2010 07:19 #355801 by mark1122
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porchev914 wrote:

I could make you one Mark, but your right, I'd need a straight frame to make something to fit your bike :laugh:

:lol: :laugh:

the one concern I have with this motor mount is crowding the chain run. I may have to remove the tabe and nut on the left side and replace it with a thicker tab that can be threaded. That, I think, would eliminate the possiblity of chain interference. Thank you guys for the input :cheer:
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I dont see how u would have a chain to mount clearance issue? this mount is what would eliminate it on my bike, and has on Irishwills. i dont know what u mean about the change u describe either?

"I may have to remove the tab and nut on the left side and replace it with a thicker tab that can be threaded. "

Personally, i would enjoy following your post as u add the bracing.Did u read and understand where the front neck bracing went in the article that Tri posted?
Please continue to post, i need my fix.:woohoo:

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24 Mar 2010 07:40 #355804 by testarossa
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I'm with mark. You ain't gettin off that easy. We at least need to see some pictures of what you have done. I know that it does slow you down when trying to document every step of the way. Heck when I did the fork rebuild, the first leg took like 1.5 hrs. Do one step, clean hands, take picture, discard picture, clean camera lens, take new picture, repeat. Second leg took all of 20 min. without all of the documentation.

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24 Mar 2010 08:10 #355811 by mark1122
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testarossa wrote:

I'm with mark. You ain't gettin off that easy. We at least need to see some pictures of what you have done. I know that it does slow you down when trying to document every step of the way. Heck when I did the fork rebuild, the first leg took like 1.5 hrs. Do one step, clean hands, take picture, discard picture, clean camera lens, take new picture, repeat. Second leg took all of 20 min. without all of the documentation.


Thanks again for the post, your time is appreciated.B)

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24 Mar 2010 09:13 #355819 by porchev914
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I dont see how u would have a chain to mount clearance issue? this mount is what would eliminate it on my bike, and has on Irishwills. i dont know what u mean about the change u describe either?

"I may have to remove the tab and nut on the left side and replace it with a thicker tab that can be threaded. "
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What I was thinking was that a thicker piece of steel for the tab would allow me to tuck the tab in closer to the frame. I'm not going to worry about it for now though. I will document the for you guys though ;) last night I stripped the frame again and started cutting off the old brackets on the subframe. Tomorrow I'll start laying out the frame gusseting in the swingarm area. I think I will start a new thread for it though, this one is getting a bit long! B)

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